NSW State of Origin side 2017

ryno_ wrote:

He was the 2nd best NSW centre on the field - considering the mortgage a healthy Dugan has on 1 centre spot, yes, he slipped further from contention for the 2nd centre SOO nod.

He didnt play badly but he's far from playing himself into a representative jersey. He didnt even play City/Country FFS and that had Cheyse Blair up against Nathan Ross. If he's "clearly going to play rep footy in the next few years" - what position? Theres multiple fullbacks ahead of him, about a half dozen centres and a bunch of wingers... and those guys ahead of him arent near hanging it up. Even Jennings, who seems like hes been around forever is only in his 20s.

Ice wrote:

So we agree he won't get selected this year (funnily enough if Hayne is out I got a funny feeling they might just throw him to the wolves). But what is a few years?? Next year, the year after? Is that taking into consideration injuries or are we just assuming good form Tom force his way in?

Pieman wrote:
1. How did jennings outplay him? Dont know what game you were watching.

Pieman wrote:
2. I literally said, he wont and shouldnt get picked this year. In saying that, if there is a whitewash it wouldnt shock me if he is chucked in for a game three. Because you seem so privvy on the 'pecking order' can you tell me what it is please? Because we dont even know winger number 2 at the moment, and if hayne is not healthy - who plays left centre?

Pieman wrote:
3. What position? Centre or wing.

Pieman wrote:
4. Jennings is 29 lol

Pieman wrote:
5. How the fuck is city country the measuring stick?

Pieman wrote:
I would be more fearful if he actually played city country to be honest because basically it means he zero chance of getting a start.

Pieman wrote:Gus made his Panthers players play to try and get them into form. They werent trialling for the NSW team ffs.
Or is Hame Sele on the verge of getting picked too?
City country has basically nothing to do with state of origin.

Yes mate, jennings is still in his 20s, good stuff. :lol: :lol:

And nope, fergo would never play centre for NSW. He is a good rep winger, terrible centre. Plus he plays exclusively on the other side of the field.

Ahead of Mitchell as of right now - IMO, off the top of my head.
Left Wingers: Brett Morris, Hayne.  (injured TTrbo, Mansour)
Left Centres: Hayne, Jennings, possibly josh morris, (maybe Croker even tho he is never even mentioned in the debate).

All the healthy guys are in their very late 20s or 30s too

Now, as I have said a few times, he wont get picked this year and needs to learn some consistency and mature a bit. He obviously has the size and raw talent so yeh, In the next couple of years, mos def.

Far out, if the guy was from QLD you blokes would be absolutely tearing shreds off it over him

ryno_ wrote:

Bird & Roberts would also be infront for either/or/both centre/wing spots. BJ was in the emerging squad with them all so would be there or thereabouts depending on the day of the week.

Plus, if they go with Moylan at the back, they need to find room for Tedesco somewhere. And vice versa.

Gordon also gets picked in the back 3 ahead of Latrell at club, theres no reason that wouldnt continue at rep level, age aside.

Pieman wrote:
Gordon might be ahead of him on the wing, but I think he was a right winger wasnt he?
Bird doesnt play left centre or left wing, either does roberts, either doe BJ.

They wont go with moylan at fullback, he will be the 6 or he wont be there, and they refuse to pick Tedesco on the wing for some reason even though I agree, he would be great there. Centre, duno. Moylan on the wing or at centre? Nope.

Now, on the the next one.

Pearce - he will be picked at 7.
How many chances does he get this time around? If he is shit in game 1, does he get dropped for game 2?

I would honestly love to see him picked in the 14 and eased back into origin but it wont happen. That way you can have Moylan and Maloney in the side too.

Pieman wrote:
Gordon might be ahead of him on the wing, but I think he was a right winger wasnt he?
Bird doesnt play left centre or left wing, either does roberts, either doe BJ.

They wont go with moylan at fullback, he will be the 6 or he wont be there, and they refuse to pick Tedesco on the wing for some reason even though I agree, he would be great there. Centre, duno. Moylan on the wing or at centre? Nope.

Now, on the the next one.

Pearce - he will be picked at 7.
How many chances does he get this time around? If he is shit in game 1, does he get dropped for game 2?

I would honestly love to see him picked in the 14 and eased back into origin but it wont happen. That way you can have Moylan and Maloney in the side too.

ryno_ wrote:

#3 & #4 are interchangeable these days, especially when you're talking about rep quality players (and Latrell). Its not the old days of the inside/outside centre.

ryno_ wrote:

#3 & #4 are interchangeable these days, especially when you're talking about rep quality players (and Latrell). Its not the old days of the inside/outside centre.

Ice wrote:

Agree Pearce will be picked and if that is the case I think they should stick with him and Maloney for this series and the next, because we won't win this series regardless, unless Hayne kills it again from centre.

That said, I agree with your last comment, my preference would be to at least stick with the game 3 winning combo and ease Pearce in at 14. I think it is really bad karma to drop a game winning halfs combo for the next series if both are fit and in decent touch, which both are, even if it was a dead rubber.

Pieman wrote:

If they dont pick moylan at 6 what was the point of picking him there last year in the dead rubber?
As I said, personally, I would be going with Maloney and Moylan in the halves with pearce at 14. Pearce is cover for injury but if all goes to plan he plays a running role in the middle of the field like cronk use to. He is a brilliant hole hitter. He can also play a little but of hooker to give Wallace a rest.

There are also whispers that Tedesco will be overlooked for Hayne, which I dont hate. Ted looked tired and disinterested recently. In saying that, if Hayne was FB, I would be picking ted on the wing over Bmoz - its a no brainer.
From what I have read and seen this is the possible side

Ted (Hayne)
Bmoz
Hayne (Jennings)
Dugan
Fergo
Maloney
Pearce
Fifita
Wallace
Woods
Cordner (c)
Friz
Jackson

Bird
Graham
Klemmer
JTrbo

I have tossed up a few teams here, and no one prob cares but I wouldnt hate...
Hayne
Tedesco
Bird
Dugan
Fergo
Moylan
Maloney
Fifita
Wallace
Klemmer
Cordner (c)
Friz
JTrbo

Pearce
Graham
Vaughn
Prop/lock - Merrin/Tamou/JDB

Ice wrote:You also have to assume Jackson will be there so one of Graham, Frizell and JTurbo will miss out as Cordner is a certainty also. I think JTurbo fills that role of workman that Jackson also plays so it may we'll be him. I've always advocated for that grinder/workman, Hindy missed out far to often to the likes of Creagh/Hoffman/Watmough/Bird/O'Donnell et al when what NSW needed was 1 guy prepared to make 50 tackles to take the work load off the other running backrowers and we paid the price for it. So to that end I can come at the selection of Jackson, I just think JTurbo does everything he does and probably does it better now and has more upside long term.

Jackson offers nothing from the bench in my view, he just isn't a guy anyone is going, "Oh crap, this guy could really hurt us" but the other 4, any one of them on their day can do something from the bench and Turbo , as a starter, makes that backroad stronger.

I think my pack would now be:

Woods
Peats
Fifita
Graham
Cordner
Trbojevic

Peachey/Pearce
Klemmer
Frizell
Paulo/Vaughan

Pieman wrote:Also they did pick Walker from left field last year so who the fuck knows what they will do

Pieman wrote:

I really dont think Woods should be there. He is so fucking over rated. But he will be there.
I would love for the peach to get picked, but he wont.

The good thing about JTrbo is he offers brilliant offload as well, he is almost corey parker like. Jackson (and I feel like we have this discussion every series) is a great player. He is a hard worker and he wont let anyone down, but there at a handful of guys that actually offer something in attack as well as the hard defense that he will do - ie JTrbo. Dont get me wrong, Jackson will play, he will start and he will be one of the harder workers and better defenders on the park - I just prefer someone that at least offers something in attack as well like Friz, Jtrbo, graham

I too would go peats over wallace, but they wont.
Peats at least offers a hooker for the next 3/4 series where wallace would be 1/2 at best.
If wallace is hooker I feel we need a genuine utility or hooker on the bench like Peach/peats but it wont happen, it will be jack bird.