Wow. I just saw the daily telegraph when I went out for lunch. They've actually made the Thaiday thing front pages.
Do they not have real news to report on
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@Pieman wrote:Also, I say this every year about origin - I FUCKING HATE how differently they ref it to regular weekend footy. HATE IT.
The refs didnt really make and howler calls - the calls they made certainly didnt cost NSW the game or gift QLD the game.
1. Its the calls they didnt make that was infurating me. Blokes laying in the ruck, blokes holding on too long, high shots - calling 1 or 2 but no others. If that was a regular club game there would have been a 20-25 penalty count. only fucking 8 penalties in the game my arse. I HATE how they just put the whistle away.
Guys not square at marker, so much offside especially on the try line and last tackles. As someone who watches most games each weekend, I fucking HATE the way they ref it. Its like the refs are told - dont blow many penalties because we want people who dont usually watch League to enjoy the free flowing nature of the game - but by not blowing penalties it slows down the ruck, it lets blokes creep offisde etc and it ends up making it look like a shit wwe submission match.
NSW couldnt BUY a penalty in the last half of the game.
2. Also - what about the Walker playing the ball on cam smith debacle. I mean, yeah, walker obviously did it on purpose - but it doesnt change the fact that Smith was still laying in the fucking ruck. If smith isnt there there is no knock on, thats normally a penalty - with the defender going "Where am I suppose to go?" and the ref saying "sorry but you were still in the ruck". And people think Cam smith has no influence over the refs Lol.
3. Also - with the morris no try - guerra came in and put his foot under the ball to stop the try - who was saying to me the other week that that is illegal - regarding the inglis/farah one???????? Shouldnt it have been a penalty then if you arent allowed to use your foot to stop a try?
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1. I can't agree with this enough. The thing is, if reffed like club game there wouldn't be 20-25 penalties because after half a dozen teams will stop doing it. Both teams got penalties in the first 25 minutes but the whistle went away and by the second half they knew they could get away with anything. The odd penalty in a close match in the second half would have stopped teams risking giving away the 2 points and field territory and would have seen a quicker (and probably more enjoyable) game. Both teams were offside and holding down until next week in the second half. As a biased QLDer, I personally think that would favour us even more as we have the best club players (JT, Smith, Inglis, Cronk etc). If I was a NSW supporter I'd be saying the teams are pretty evenly matched, so even if QLD do have the better players, they certainly aren't 9/10 series better, so an differently reffed game would be to NSW advantage. Unfortunately we'll probably never know. I reckon if games were reffed like club football, then the term "origin type players" would disappear. A good club player should be a good origin player and vice versa imo.
2. I disagree. I reckon those instances are being called knock on more and more often in club games. And here you can't say Smith was in the ruck because Walker reached forward a metre and across half a metre to put it where Smith was. If that's where Smith was he wasn't in the ruck. You're the first person I've spoken to who thinks that the wrong call was made by the refs here.
3. Maybe you're referring to me. You can't kick the ball out of someone's hands (what Farah did), but you can put your foot or leg where you think they will place the ball before they place it there (what Guerra did). They're two completely different things. On that passage of play, Fafita took our marker Thaiday out of play by walking forward a metre in front of Thaiday to play the ball, and this is what gave the room for Morris to go close imo, so he should have been made to play the ball again. Having said that, that call is never made close to the line, so I wasn't expecting any call.
@leaguegod wrote: agree with pieman that the incidents and actions by both guerra and farah where similar, tho i agree with neither of those being penalties
i completely diagree with pieman re carty, put him in there and last nights score probably ends up 18-4
Smith was technically still in the ruck when Walker put it on him even if he placed it to the side to get it onto smith. I dont think its a clear cut penalty to NSW but it would have been nice to get a penalty for something that could very easily be a penalty to NSW. I do agree that they are sometimes called knock on's in club games but also somtimes not.
Also, what about when Gagai fucked up the play the ball and it was just play on? That was a pretty crucial time in the game too but - nope - non call.
No he wasnt, if he was in the ruck it would have been a penalty to NSW. Smith was a metre to the right and a foot infront of the ruck. If Walker actually put the ball there to roll it, he would have either been penalised for moving off the mark or given away a changeover because there was no way on Earth the ball was going between his legs from where he was and where he put the ball.
You mean when Gagai got up to play the ball and some Blue idiot tried to push him back down but only got 1 hand to him, so he spun him around? You're right, should have been a penalty to QLD.
Well he wasnt a metre away, he was close enough for Walker to be able to just reach out and put it on him. Hes most certainly still in the ruck.
And I would like to see the gagai one again. Def didnt play it correctly.
There were heaps of calls that went against each team, it goes both ways.
Welshy, do you think either Jackson or cordner were poor enough to be dropped ??
because i thought they both had specific roles and both played them very well, i get the feeling you were gonna call for frizz regardless of how they played
Walker "just reaching out". He's clearly to the side of the ruck.:
Bird interfering with Gagai when attempting to play the ball (in chronological order) - Bird was lucky not to give away the penalty: