Hmmmm, now where have I seen a comment similar to this, about a guy never having played a sport, cracking a team inside 12 months against guys who have played it their whole life, now, let me just think
Seriously laugh at people thinking the Fijian Rugby Association and their head coach would risk a Gold just so they could take Hayne. Seriously, give yourselves a dozen and have a bit of respect for them and their skills in this unique form of the game. These are deeply religious guys who have little care for fame glory and dollars, you seriously think they are gonna risk a Gold for Hayne.
I honestly doubt he will make the side. But if he does, it will be on merit for sure. I just can't beleive, after he proved everyone wrong with the NFL the tall poppy haters are soooo quick to have a per crack at him. Seriously, our country is a nation of whingers and haters, it's pathetic.
First of all Ice, I believe you have me confused with some sort of "anti-Hayne" campaigner. That must have been going on well before I joined this forum, some kind of Queensland v NSW thing? I'm a Kiwi, no bias here at all I can assure you. Your posts in response to mine and others suggest there are many more emotions in this that I am bringing to the table. Later posts by others also suggest there is much more to this than I know about (and care about for that matter). So please, take my comments for what is written and nothing more, as I said previously I was a massive supporter of what Hayne was doing in the NFL, followed every minute of his career over there, and think what he achieved was out of this world.
That being said, whats the difference between Fiji taking Hayne in their squad without him earning it, and the All Blacks doing the same with SBW in the 2011 RWC? The All Blacks have more to lose (I think) than the Fiji 7s team, or at the very least they are on par. It's not beyond belief that a team might carry someone for star power reasons (or give them assurances about playing which is the general consensus overtime SBW signs a new NZRU contract). There are a lot of financial gains to be had and it would be hugely naive to think the Fiji Rugby Union don't have that in mind - in fact they would be absolute muppets in this day and age if they didn't. As for risking Gold for Hayne? I don't think it would be that big a risk, I have to do a bit more research on squad size for Rio (I thought it was 12 but it may be more), but I do believe it is not unreasonable to think you could carry someone in your squad. The match day squad is 12 (5 reserves), often in the 14 minute game a couple reserves don't even make the field so....
On top of that, you refer to Hayne's critics in NFL, and him achieving amazing goals inside of 12 months which is a fantastic point and an amazing part of his resume, BUT, he has a few days to prep for London (not 12 months), and that is the only tournament before the Olympics. That is a ridiculously short time frame. I'm not sure how much you know about 7s, maybe you are very familiar, but I am a big rugby guy and coming from NZ the goal for our Olympics squad was to give most of the 15s guys a whole world series to get up to standard, and even in that time frame many have struggled, and these are Union players making the switch (as opposed to an ex League player who hasn't touched the game in 2 years). Im sorry, but despite how amazing Hayne is, I just can't see how he can prove himself in such a short time frame.
Also, just to qualify a couple points, I had a think about how I would feel should a couple start All Blacks (like Barrett or Smith) be added to the squad so late in the piece with an eye to Rio and at the very least I would be hugely critical of the timing. I think as well there would be serious question marks over their ability to get up to play with the systems, and in particular get their physical condition in the right place for 7s (bearing in mind 7s requires completely different physical conditioning that 15s). And they are seasoned All Blacks, that have played a lot of 7s, and are currently in the middle of a 15s season. It's a massive ask mate for even the best rugby players in the world is all I am saying.
Genuinely interested in hearing your response, but if you could keep in mind that Im not having a go at you or Hayne I think it would be better.
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