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    Is it ok for Hopoate to omit himself from sundays ?

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    Post by leaguegod on Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:15 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    For the Dogs, the most worrying aspect is the GF. Assuuming they make the 8, Do they play Hopoate in other finals series games, knowing he won't be there for the big one, or do they play with the team that they'll need to win it with?

    if hoppa gives you the best chance to win a finals game, then play him (which he will)

    it does imo, mean bmoz will slide back into fullback regardless of how good hoppa is playing, easier to bring in a right centre or winger rather then changing the spine
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    Post by leaguegod on Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:18 am

    @ryno_ wrote:

    I an also quite curious as to how it took this long for the clause to get out. I would have thought all parties involved would have been promoting the deal as a good thing and good publicity, as opposed to it just leaking out a month into the season.


    lots of dogs fan arn't happy about it and i imagine the club knew that would be the case


    its gone smoother with him playing well and us 3 from 4, i think the standard dogs fans would have taken it even worse when it was first announced (given we let lafai go at the same time)
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin on Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:44 am

    This is an interesting topic. I voted "yes" cause it's his choice and no-one else's and of course it is "ok" for him to choose to do this. The interesting question is how do his current/future employers and team mates react?

    Also, out of interest, one would assume that he has ruled himself out of ALL Sunday matches including the GF or any other finals matches should his team make it. Has this question been put directly to him though?

    FInally, this reminds me of one of the All Blacks greatest players, Michael Jones, who didn't play on Sundays. That was before the prop era though so the implications were were a bit different. However, Rugby is NZ's biggest "religion" yet my memory is that everyone dealt with it pretty well over here which is a little surprising thinking about it. Perhaps it wouldn't be the same now though??
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    Post by Dip on Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:50 am

    Might have something to do with the court case he has going on with Parra at the moment. I thought to sue for damages he'd have to show he has suffered economic loss. It might be that his legal team is expecting Parra to say that he is getting less because he doesn't play Sundays, so they are throwing it out there now so they are not also getting bad media coverage at the same time as a court case.

    I wonder whether when the draw is made for rounds 21-26 whether some concession is made for Canterbury not playing Sunday matches. I hope not, because otherwise they get a salary cap advantage if they are paying someone based on missing some matches they end up playing. Given there are usually 2-3 Sunday matches, you'd expect they would normally play about 2 Sunday matches in that 6 week period.
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    Post by Dip on Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:57 am

    @leaguegod wrote:


    lots of dogs fan arn't happy about it and i imagine the club knew that would be the case


    its gone smoother with him playing well and us 3 from 4, i think the standard dogs fans would have taken it even worse when it was first announced (given we let lafai go at the same time)

    Most reasonable people would say that Hoppa for maybe 18 times a year + every final except the GF is probably better than the alternative, which might have been someone like Michael Gordon for 24 rounds + every final. I know I would. Still, not everyone would agree with that.

    Might be more of an issue the next couple of seasons. Aren't they getting rid of MNF or 5 day turnarounds or something like that? If so, you'd thing there'd end up 3 matches on Saturday and Sunday, so he'll be ineligible for 37.5% of games.
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    Post by leaguegod on Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:06 pm

    @Dip wrote:

    Most reasonable people would say that Hoppa for maybe 18 times a year + every final except the GF is probably better than the alternative, which might have been someone like Michael Gordon for 24 rounds + every final. I know I would. Still, not everyone would agree with that.

    Might be more of an issue the next couple of seasons. Aren't they getting rid of MNF or 5 day turnarounds or something like that? If so, you'd thing there'd end up 3 matches on Saturday and Sunday, so he'll be ineligible for 37.5% of games.

    there was still talk of 2 friday night games again


    NRL did have it set out to be 6pm & 8pm friday kick offs which is stupid but its on the table but do agree that there is a chance of us missing him more next year then we will this year
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    Post by leaguegod on Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:14 pm

    @Dip wrote:Might have something to do with the court case he has going on with Parra at the moment. I thought to sue for damages he'd have to show he has suffered economic loss. It might be that his legal team is expecting Parra to say that he is getting less because he doesn't play Sundays, so they are throwing it out there now so they are not also getting bad media coverage at the same time as a court case.

    I wonder whether when the draw is made for rounds 21-26 whether some concession is made for Canterbury not playing Sunday matches. I hope not, because otherwise they get a salary cap advantage if they are paying someone based on missing some matches they end up playing. Given there are usually 2-3 Sunday matches, you'd expect they would normally play about 2 Sunday matches in that 6 week period.

    i think we'll get anywhere between 0 and 2. we generally play a lot of night game anyway


    RD 21 - V dragons, we have in the past played them a bit on a sunday arvo, good chance. if dragons arn't in final contention, sat arvo/night is possible
    RD 22 V knights probably a saturday night
    RD 23 V Manly - havn't played them in a day game for ages, odds on for another night game
    RD 24 V Broncs - defs a friday night
    RD 25 V Cows - this is the belmore game, good odds this is either sunday arvo or friday night for 9
    RD 26 V souths - no monday night game last week but good odds this either thursday or friday

    dragons and cows seem most likely for a sunday game, i'd actually think the club would rather the 2nd belmore game be a sunday, hoppa or no hoppa

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    Post by Milchy on Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:25 pm


    @Dip wrote:Might have something to do with the court case he has going on with Parra at the moment. I thought to sue for damages he'd have to show he has suffered economic loss. It might be that his legal team is expecting Parra to say that he is getting less because he doesn't play Sundays, so they are throwing it out there now so they are not also getting bad media coverage at the same time as a court case.

    I wonder whether when the draw is made for rounds 21-26 whether some concession is made for Canterbury not playing Sunday matches. I hope not, because otherwise they get a salary cap advantage if they are paying someone based on missing some matches they end up playing. Given there are usually 2-3 Sunday matches, you'd expect they would normally play about 2 Sunday matches in that 6 week period.

    It certainly would be terrible if the NRL/TV broadcasters did the draw and gave 1 team a disproportionate number of games that weren't Sunday
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    Post by Krump on Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:30 pm

    Milchcow wrote:


    It certainly would be terrible if the NRL/TV broadcasters did the draw and gave 1 team a disproportionate number of games that weren't Sunday
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    Post by Dip on Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:38 pm

    Milchcow wrote:


    It certainly would be terrible if the NRL/TV broadcasters did the draw and gave 1 team a disproportionate number of games that weren't Sunday

    Lol, well played. For the record, I agree with you. As a Broncos member it sucks that I've been a member since 2009 and in that time I think I've have had 2 Saturday games and maybe a dozen or so Sunday games. given it's a 5 hour round trip to the game with two children the oldest of which is 11, it'd be much better for my situation to have less Friday night games.

    Seriously though, there is a difference between the NRL doing the draw disproportionally for their benefit, as opposed to them doing it disproportionally for the club's benefit. I suppose you could say that with an unusually high number of Ranga's in our team over the last few years (Reed, Wallace), then night matches protect them from sunburn.
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    Post by Revraiser on Wed May 11, 2016 1:57 pm

    http://www.nrl.com/perrett-sought-to-follow-hopoates-lead/tabid/10874/newsid/95758/default.aspx


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    Post by leaguegod on Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:51 pm

    no sunday games for the dogs


    may be good for the hoppa situation but fuck it annoys me


    can't believe they put the belmore game of fucking thursday. 4 belmore games in 2 years and 3 of them are just impossible for those who travel about 2 hours each way

    the draw release was just a major disappointment for myself, this Saturday may be the last game i can attend, i'm not sure i can paying for the membership if i can't attend enough games to prove its worth
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    Post by Dip on Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:26 pm

    Yep. And I'm so glad that for my over $500 for a season ticket I get 4 Thursday night matches, seven Friday night matches, and one Saturday night match. That's fantastic when you have a five hour round trip.
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    Post by Guest on Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:49 pm

    I am yet to see a single NRL fan who doesn't love going to a game on a Sunday. I wish the Broncos had more Sunday games, perfect day out for the entire family. Going to church in the morning then have a feed with family and friends then head to the game, can't beat that.
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    Post by Dip on Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:53 pm

    Except the church bit.
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    Post by Honeysett on Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:23 pm

    Bren wrote:I am yet to see a single NRL fan who doesn't love going to a game on a Sunday. I wish the Broncos had more Sunday games, perfect day out for the entire family. Going to church in the morning then have a feed with family and friends then head to the game, can't beat that.

    I much prefer to attend night games if I'm going to go to a live game. A couple of beers before the game and a nice meal beats the sun in my eyes but I'd be in rare company there.

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    Post by Guest on Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:33 pm

    @Honeysett wrote:

    I much prefer to attend night games if I'm going to go to a live game. A couple of beers before the game and a nice meal beats the sun in my eyes but I'd be in rare company there.


    Eh what can I say. I love night games at Suncorp also. Thursday night games can bugger off though.
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    Post by Honeysett on Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:17 pm

    Bren wrote:

    Eh what can I say. I love night games at Suncorp also. Thursday night games can bugger off though.

    Is that because of work?
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    Post by Guest on Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:58 pm

    @Honeysett wrote:

    Is that because of work?

    That is one of the reason's, yes. I usually have other stuff on Thursday nights anyway such as squash etc.

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