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    NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 59 - Who let the Dogs into the winner's circle

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    Post by robelgordo Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:00 am

    Lucy to Cowboys now is done, low key interested to see if he can get back to his 2021 fantasy form

    Garner to Panthers next season

    Tigers have clearly vowed that no edge players can be retained for 2023. iPap to play both left and right side
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    Post by rhinoceroo Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:06 am

    Milchcow wrote:
    If we want some rep round shitposting. My controversial opinion is that w should have less stats in Fantasy, not more.

    For a start, drop tackles down to 1 point for every 2 tackles (or even less). You can then reduce most other stats across the board as well.
    There is no need to try and come up with a stat to reward every single thing that happens on the football field. Stats at the moment are too influenced by a couple of big stats. Make more than 1 offload to hand in a game and you've for a great score, almost regardless of anything else that happens.

    Having lower scores in general means it would be less punishing if your player gets injured in the 3rd minute.

    You'd be punished exactly the same proportionally, it would just seem less punishing because the raw number is lower.
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    Post by Mulvy Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:08 am

    robelgordo wrote:

    That was one of the #codeincrisis moments back in the day, where video refs rules passes forward that may/may not have been backwards out of the hand so they decided it was too hard.

    But then in a recent game you had a ref pretend a pass was a bat-on so they could rule on it anyway. Which shows the absurdity.

    If they get the chip in the ball to work though, I fear we will never get through a set of six without a forward pass from dummy half. At least for a few rounds.

    Other things I don't like:
    * golden point in regular season games
    * golden point, generally. It's bad footy to watch, with a few rare exceptions
    * the 7-tackle set restart if a ball goes dead. Seems disproportionate punishment for a grubber going a bit long
    * the other team not being able to pickup a kick restart that doesn't go 10m
    * tries being allowed from grounding with your torso, or anything that isn't a hand
    * tries being allowed when a guy is wrestling in a tackle, held-up, for 15-20 seconds, way after it would be called held anywhere else
    * anything that is reffed differently in the goals compared to the 100m in between
    * the way refs will let the play go to a try, so they can get the video ref to check something 50m earlier. One day a player will deliberately get tackled 5m out to end that nonsense.

    Also I like field goals but it's weird that the act of kicking a field goal involves a deliberate knock-on. Which makes me think, if a guy drops a pass cold, but kicks it on the bounce, should it not just be play on? Why aren't players doing this? Aside from that one time Benji scored that way, I mean?

    I like a few of these,  but yeah this one irks me the most.
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:25 am

    Someone asked before about EFIG points, this is every NRL player with more than 1 EFIG this season


    Row Labels EFIG
    Reece Walsh3
    Brendan Elliot2
    Starford To'a2
    Ronaldo Mulitalo2
    Dominic Young2
    Tom Trbojevic2
    Dylan Edwards2
    Alex Johnston2
    Matt Dufty2
    Izack Tago2
    Sione Katoa2
    Jahrome Hughes2
    Taane Milne2
    James Tedesco2
    Zac Lomax2
    Jason Saab2
    Jayden Campbell2
    Luke Brooks2

    There are 43 players who have 1 EFIG
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    Post by robelgordo Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:30 am

    Brendan Elliot’s EFIGpg is massive
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:37 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    You'd be punished exactly the same proportionally, it would just seem less punishing because the raw number is lower.

    Having one of your players score 1 when everyone else scores 60 is more punishing than having one of your players score 1 when everyone else scores 30
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:43 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    Having one of your players score 1 when everyone else scores 60 is more punishing than having one of your players score 1 when everyone else scores 30

    He might have scored -2 without the additional stats
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    Post by Aardvark Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:44 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    Having one of your players score 1 when everyone else scores 60 is more punishing than having one of your players score 1 when everyone else scores 30

    Wouldn't it be just as hard to get those 30 points back as it is to get 60 now?

    or are we saying that if you take away the superfluous stats high scoring is concentrated among the players with good 'base' (however that is defined)
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    Post by Jumping Marlin Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:50 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    Having one of your players score 1 when everyone else scores 60 is more punishing than having one of your players score 1 when everyone else scores 30

    AFL fantasy scoring is much higher and a good example. When a player gets a low score the price change is punishing. Much easier to wait and build a gun team just by buying 'fallen gun'.
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    Post by Jumping Marlin Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:00 am

    On NRL fantasy stats:  I've often thought that it'd be more aligned to effectiveness if every tackle was valued at 2(or 3), and those points were allocated to the relative contribution of the tacklers.  
    For example:

    > A one on one tackle gets 2 points.
    > A two man tackle, they get a point each
    > A Jurbo special snapping someone in half while Tapau hangs on. Both points to Jurbo.
    > A 3 man tackle where Carrigan and Capewell do the dirty work and Hass comes in for the flop. 1 each to Carrigan and Capewell

    Yep, totally impractical.
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    Post by Lchy Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:19 am

    Jumping Marlin wrote:On NRL fantasy stats:  I've often thought that it'd be more aligned to effectiveness if every tackle was valued at 2(or 3), and those points were allocated to the relative contribution of the tacklers.  
    For example:

    > A one on one tackle gets 2 points.
    > A two man tackle, they get a point each
    > A Jurbo special snapping someone in half while Tapau hangs on. Both points to Jurbo.
    > A 3 man tackle where Carrigan and Capewell do the dirty work and Hass comes in for the flop. 1 each to Carrigan and Capewell

    Yep, totally impractical.

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    Post by Loomer Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:54 am

    I agree with Gus again with his rant recently that NRL needs a draft pick system to avoid these hegemonies
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    Post by Khany Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:00 am

    So Burton will probably rain bombs on new boy Tuilagi Sunday night.
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    Post by Nrl4Life Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:20 am

    I might start with Garner next year since he's moving to the Panthers. Hopefully he keeps his DPP
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    Post by Teeth Eater Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:33 am

    Nrl4Life wrote:I might start with Garner next year since he's moving to the Panthers. Hopefully he keeps his DPP

    I'd be amazed if he had a role in the Panthers line up that would warrant his likely price tag, surely?
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    Post by Khany Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:38 am

    Not sure I can hold Cotter to rd 20
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    Post by Loomer Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:44 am

    Khany wrote:Not sure I can hold Cotter to rd 20

    Trades are PODs now
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    Post by Lchy Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:47 am

    Teeth Eater wrote:

    I'd be amazed if he had a role in the Panthers line up that would warrant his likely price tag, surely?

    If he got Kikau's role with ctr dual I'd be right on board
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:47 am

    Teeth Eater wrote:

    I'd be amazed if he had a role in the Panthers line up that would warrant his likely price tag, surely?

    He couldnt be on much? Fringe first grader but would have an opportunity to earn kikaus vacant edge

    One of those budget signings that ends up being low key 'buy of the year'
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    Post by Nrl4Life Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:51 am

    People on discord are like car salesmen trying to sell me Kennedy don't want him because I already have Koula, Savage and Kiraz. I went with Volkman rant over LOL

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