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    NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 33 - The return of the Hurrelcane, plus beans means HYNES

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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:02 am

    mattnz wrote:

    They attack both sides of the field. Only one side is scoring tries!

    You literally quoted a graph that shows less than half their tries come on the left side. Sometimes I think you are deliberately contrarian
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    Post by easytiger Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:04 am

    WT Winfield wrote:

    Realistically though, Tracey was due back Rd 6 and Talakai hit the money-making score in Rd 4. Prior to that he scored 37 with a try at SR and coming off 2021 with a string of sub 30 scores.

    Trading him in for Rd 5 was largely motivated by the -10 BE and facing Tigers, hoping he could cash in there and then manage some 30s off the bench to hopefully make the 150k.

    Trading in before Rd 6, it's unknown if he gets CTR and he's not a keeper without it. Unfortunately for most, he hits the equal 2nd highest score of his career at that point, against the Storm of all teams and suddenly he's 559k, priced at 40 and most people already have at least 2 CTRs hitting keeper averages.

    Turned out worthwhile after that score and looks capable of averaging 40+ even without it if he holds the spot. I think a few will take the money and run in a few weeks though. Not gonna average 50+ and price will be at a point where he facilitates some real guns.

    That's a very astute summary.

    I think every sane player would've come to the conclusion that the 17TB's he put on against the Knights was unlikely to be even remotely repeatable - but yeah, there was a great BE and not a bad risk (that has paid off very lucratively)

    Had a muted performance against the Tigers facing Roberts of all people -> 45 points good, but not outstanding and still questions over LT job security and coming up against the miserly Storm.

    The rest is history I guess
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    Post by mattnz Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:04 am

    B/L wrote:So how many points do mulitalo and cleary need to beat papy and Hynes to make the trade a success. I'd be wanting 20 a week on average or it seems like 2 trades just got thrown in the bin.

    Cleary can make up 20 per week just in captaincy points.
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:04 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Fantasy aside, Mulitalo is a really good player. Did we work out whether he can play Origin in the end? Or whether he'll be playing for the Kiwis (or Samoa) in the World Cup?

    Think he was ruled ineligible (permanently?). But this is the NRL. Probably revisit his eligibility two days before origin 1. (because why would you figure that stuff out well in advance?)
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    Post by the_great_wobbler Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:05 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    *he is not playing like 2021 Turbo

    Yeah this is insane. There's half a dozen centres who score close to or even better than Talakai did last night given the same opportunities. No one else could do what Turbo did last year
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    Post by easytiger Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:07 am

    Revraiser wrote:

    Best way to put it is that the Sharks did what they did in 40 mins, clocked off after. I dont see the negatives at all, in my time watching league it happens more often than not. A team dominates for a large period of a game, and then they don't.

    People seem to want to bring down the Sharks as not top 4, when they have looked clear top 3. Easily. You have to watch the games atleast, scorelines mean nothing.

    As for magnanimous, nice word, could be first time used on the forum. It also feels like some want Muli and Talakai to fail, like punts and out of the box picks are devilish ideas.

    For mine, Panthers, Storm & Sharks look well clear of the next best teams as present
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:09 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:Sharks stopped going left because they stopped winning in the middle. Manly with the wind at their back, some line speed in defence and momentum kept winning the ruck

    Some people would benefit from learning something about football rather than assuming that something worked in the first half so it will automatically work in the second

    This video of Matty Johns explaining how you have to earn the right to go wide is a good start

    https://streamable.com/sq4ca8

    Ray Dalio of League lol I love Matty Johns. Looking forward to seeing what him and Andrew can do with Samoa
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    Post by mattnz Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:09 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    You literally quoted a graph that shows less than half their tries come on the left side. Sometimes I think you are deliberately contrarian

    In the 4 weeks of Talakai being at CTR that is clearly not the case.
    He created the try scored under the posts where he kicked back to the middle. The other 8 tries have all been left side in the last 2 weeks. Running the ball under the posts doesn't make it a try created in the middle.
    In the Knights game most of their tries were left side as well. Tolman scored on the left side and the Talakai try.
    Wilton has 3 tries in 6 games at left EDG.


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    Post by mattnz Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:12 am

    easytiger wrote:

    That's a very astute summary.

    I think every sane player would've come to the conclusion that the 17TB's he put on against the Knights was unlikely to be even remotely repeatable - but yeah, there was a great BE and not a bad risk (that has paid off very lucratively)

    Had a muted performance against the Tigers facing Roberts of all people -> 45 points good, but not outstanding and still questions over LT job security and coming up against the miserly Storm.

    The rest is history I guess

    Everyone bringing in Talakai early would agree it was a high risk, high reward play. Typically it was those that missed out on May and Tago and needed someone to step up instead at CTR. Fortunately it was a risk worth taking.
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:14 am


    What I don't understand is people saying their season is fine because they don't have Talakai.

    Did they say the same thing about Ponga last week?
    You can't have every single player that puts up a good score.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:14 am

    easytiger wrote:

    For mine, Panthers, Storm & Sharks look well clear of the next best teams as present

    Panthers and Storm, then a gap, then the Sharks, then another gap and the Eels and Roosters then Souths and Manly (with the Roosters being the one who could jump them all if they get it together, and Souths/Manly as ones who could improve when their gun fullbacks are back and could impact the post-season but won't finish top four). Then there's a battle for 8th.
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:16 am

    WT Winfield wrote:

    Realistically though, Tracey was due back Rd 6 and Talakai hit the money-making score in Rd 4. Prior to that he scored 37 with a try at SR and coming off 2021 with a string of sub 30 scores.

    Trading him in for Rd 5 was largely motivated by the -10 BE and facing Tigers, hoping he could cash in there and then manage some 30s off the bench to hopefully make the 150k.

    Trading in before Rd 6, it's unknown if he gets CTR and he's not a keeper without it. Unfortunately for most, he hits the equal 2nd highest score of his career at that point, against the Storm of all teams and suddenly he's 559k, priced at 40 and most people already have at least 2 CTRs hitting keeper averages.

    Turned out worthwhile after that score and looks capable of averaging 40+ even without it if he holds the spot. I think a few will take the money and run in a few weeks though. Not gonna average 50+ and price will be at a point where he facilitates some real guns.

    Cash has been hard to find around here this season so you're either trying to buy fallen guns or middy cows. I bought Talakai in as a decent enough scorer but could also net quick cash. If he scored 50 I would have been stoked with the call. He'll likely drop off scoring at some point, then I'll cash in. But if I didn't need to flick Walters, Fifita and Lee would've been in my squad right now
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    Post by The Bludger#2 Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:17 am

    Revraiser wrote:I am not declaring Mulitalos season average, but what's been on watch for a couple of seasons now is that Mulitalo does look pretty special and aside from benfitting from Talakais service, he does move extremely well, have a nice touch on a whim type kick and is looking more involved each year, especially this year on the back of confidence. He is breaking tackles and pushing people off like never before. But as each week ticks by its easy to quote a price on a player that's already soaring, as being to pricey 'now'.  
    As a Sharks fan, it's also easy to just enjoy the show and say f#ck fantasy anyway Flip Off
    Well said Revraiser, as a long suffering Knights fan, if (or hopefully when) they get their shit together and start pushing up into the top 4, I'll be enjoying the ride - as you should now. 
    Fantasy is just a side-hustle compared to actually following a team.
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    Post by Aardvark Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:17 am

    Milchcow wrote:
    What I don't understand is people saying their season is fine because they don't have Talakai.

    Did they say the same thing about Ponga last week?
    You can't have every single player that puts up a good score.

    I don't have him and my season is not fine Laughing

    (it's not finished either)
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    Post by Revraiser Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:19 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Fantasy aside, Mulitalo is a really good player. Did we work out whether he can play Origin in the end? Or whether he'll be playing for the Kiwis (or Samoa) in the World Cup?

    I feel a weight of responsibility here, but i legit do not know. If Inglis can play for QLD, then anyone should be able to play for anyone.
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    Post by Fortitude Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:20 am

    Not taking anything away from Talakai. But Harper was fucking dreadful in defence, and subsequently got hooked.
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    Post by Revraiser Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:21 am

    Aardvark wrote:

    😂 don’t want them to fail but do want them to succeed a bit less (also wished I had picked them up, looked a few weeks ago but ‘logic’ got in the way)

    Sharks are on a tear, it’s almost  like coherent recruitment and a decent coach make your team better 😳

    Yeah even my wife said Hynes is 'so sexy', so there is that.

    The signings and retention have felt awesome, playing out now albeit early days.

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    Post by The Bludger#2 Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:23 am

    Milchcow wrote:
    What I don't understand is people saying their season is fine because they don't have Talakai.

    Did they say the same thing about Ponga last week?
    You can't have every single player that puts up a good score.
    My thoughts exactly. 
    Ponga gets a banner and it feels like the response is "meh, it's Ponga, he's a gun and that is business as usual".
    Talakai cracks a banner and everyone loses their shit.
    lol!
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:24 am

    Revraiser wrote:

    Yeah even my wife said Hynes is 'so sexy', so there is that.


    not only that, he is a great actor too

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    Post by Revraiser Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:25 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Sharks have looked a top 4 team since the first game and nothing last night changed that. Will be right up there come the pointy end of the season

    Approved.

    I watched the Matty Johns video, i have seen that before but the way things go mean it was a good refresher.

    It can be affected by the opposition, but i am seeing something extra smooth about the way they Sharks swing the ball whether it be left or right, in that they go in quite deep and convincing in the first couple of passes, then it swings outwards swiftly. It can all come apart if a player goes down, but at the moment Moylan/Brailey, Hynes have it humming. Talakai and Mulitalo cant do anything if the units arent dominating the middle and the spine aren't shifting it as they are at the moment.

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