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    NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 33 - The return of the Hurrelcane, plus beans means HYNES

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    Post by rhinoceroo Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:45 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:Sharks stopped going left because they stopped winning in the middle. Manly with the wind at their back, some line speed in defence and momentum kept winning the ruck

    Some people would benefit from learning something about football rather than assuming that something worked in the first half so it will automatically work in the second

    This video of Matty Johns explaining how you have to earn the right to go wide is a good start

    https://streamable.com/sq4ca8

    They also didn't stop trying to go left, they just stopped getting the ball left because Moylan and Kennedy got more pressure (line speed and winning the middle as you say) and the balls to Talakai weren't on (several times they kicked instead because they knew they were heading for suicide passes). And when it did get to the edge the defenders weren't on their heels and dealt with the threat fairly comfortably.

    Talakai is a weapon and well done to anyone who risked it and got him in the 300ks, but Staggs, Manu etc do exactly the same thing if presented with multiple opportunities against a retreating edge in the way Manly gave the Sharks in the first half last night. That they managed to nullify it with a souldead player change and ten minutes of half-time coaching does suggest that sort of rampage won't be the norm for well-prepared teams going forward
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    Post by SoylentGreen Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:46 am

    mattnz wrote:

    The trade is:
    - Hynes > Cleary
    - Papy > Mulitalo

    No point comparing it the other way.

    If Sharks keep attacking left as expected, Hynes gets more 40s than 70s and Mulitalo hits a 50 average.

    Ah, I forgot that the Sharks had the cheat code where they guarantee a try every time they make a particular move. Better just hand them the premiership now, since no club can defend against the Invincible Talitalo!
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    Post by WT Winfield Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:47 am

    mattnz wrote:

    I don't think this comment will age well. Currently averaging 74 in 4 games at CTR. Could drop his average by 20 points and still be over 50 as the highest scoring CTR all season.

    He is playing like 2021 Turbo, which continued all season. Under last season's scoring he would be averaging in the 80s.

    I think you'll be selling him too in a few weeks. A 40 followed by a 30, perfectly normal for a CTR, and seeing the real guns you can get at that price, like a Fifita, Hynes, Papenhuyzen, Taumalolo etc. and he'll be gone.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:50 am

    Geez this is getting a bit tiresome
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    Post by Revraiser Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:51 am

    I am not declaring Mulitalos season average, but what's been on watch for a couple of seasons now is that Mulitalo does look pretty special and aside from benfitting from Talakais service, he does move extremely well, have a nice touch on a whim type kick and is looking more involved each year, especially this year on the back of confidence. He is breaking tackles and pushing people off like never before. But as each week ticks by its easy to quote a price on a player that's already soaring, as being to pricey 'now'.  
    As a Sharks fan, it's also easy to just enjoy the show and say f#ck fantasy anyway Flip Off
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    Post by mattnz Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:52 am

    Aardvark wrote:Got back from indoor last night that to the scores from that game, decided to let the extreme saltiness subside before reading the forum or commenting. Now I’m only quite salty (still didn’t read the last thread) but I imagine the forum exchange was gracious and magnanimous on both sides of the coin, yes?

    I was probably more caught up in excitement than gracious.
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    Post by Revraiser Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:52 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Geez this is getting a bit tiresome

    Not to start a rivalry, but on the flipside this is how the forum is every other week only it's the highly owned and easily identified players usually.
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    Post by SoylentGreen Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:53 am

    By the way, I'm loving the Sharks this year - they're playing great footy and I thoroughly enjoyed watching Talakai destroy Manly in the first half even though I don't (and likely won't) own him. I just find it laughable the amount of "if they just throw it to the big kid they'll score!" on this forum (Talakai, Fifita, Tuilagi, iPap).

    These are professional sports teams, not under 8s ffs
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:54 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Geez this is getting a bit tiresome

    I can talk about Hudson Young a bit if you like?

    PLAY HUDSON RICKY

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    Post by rhinoceroo Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:54 am

    mattnz wrote:

    I don't think this comment will age well. Currently averaging 74 in 4 games at CTR. Could drop his average by 20 points and still be over 50 as the highest scoring CTR all season.

    He is playing like 2021 Turbo, which continued all season. Under last season's scoring he would be averaging in the 80s.

    *he is not playing like 2021 Turbo
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    Post by Grouse Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:55 am

    The fact Des blamed Harpers performance on covid made me laugh out loud last night. No Des, he's been shite defensibly his entire career - serious arm grabber!
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:57 am

    mattnz wrote:

    The trade is:
    - Hynes > Cleary
    - Papy > Mulitalo

    No point comparing it the other way.

    If Sharks keep attacking left as expected, Hynes gets more 40s than 70s and Mulitalo hits a 50 average.

    I'm sure you don't genuinely think a team is going to spend 100% of the season attacking one side of the field

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    Post by my tv broke Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:57 am

    Grouse wrote:The fact Des blamed Harpers performance on covid made me laugh out loud last night. No Des, he's been shite defensibly his entire career - serious arm grabber!

    That's fine - a coach has gotta defend his players from the media, that's the kind of coach you want to play for.

    The starting line up next week will tell you how Des really sees it. Have to assume that Harper has a few weeks in cup.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:58 am

    Revraiser wrote:

    Best way to put it is that the Sharks did what they did in 40 mins, clocked off after. I dont see the negatives at all, in my time watching league it happens more often than not. A team dominates for a large period of a game, and then they don't.

    People seem to want to bring down the Sharks as not top 4, when they have looked clear top 3. Easily. You have to watch the games atleast, scorelines mean nothing.

    As for magnanimous, nice word, could be first time used on the forum. It also feels like some want Muli and Talakai to fail, like punts and out of the box picks are devilish ideas.

    Sharks have looked a top 4 team since the first game and nothing last night changed that. Will be right up there come the pointy end of the season
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    Post by Aardvark Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:58 am

    Revraiser wrote:

    Best way to put it is that the Sharks did what they did in 40 mins, clocked off after. I dont see the negatives at all, in my time watching league it happens more often than not. A team dominates for a large period of a game, and then they don't.

    People seem to want to bring down the Sharks as not top 4, when they have looked clear top 3. Easily. You have to watch the games atleast, scorelines mean nothing.

    As for magnanimous, nice word, could be first time used on the forum. It also feels like some want Muli and Talakai to fail, like punts and out of the box picks are devilish ideas.

    😂 don’t want them to fail but do want them to succeed a bit less (also wished I had picked them up, looked a few weeks ago but ‘logic’ got in the way)

    Sharks are on a tear, it’s almost like coherent recruitment and a decent coach make your team better 😳
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    Post by B/L Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:58 am

    So how many points do mulitalo and cleary need to beat papy and Hynes to make the trade a success. I'd be wanting 20 a week on average or it seems like 2 trades just got thrown in the bin.
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    Post by mattnz Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:00 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    I'm sure you don't genuinely think a team is going to spend 100% of the season attacking one side of the field

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    They attack both sides of the field. Only one side is scoring tries!
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    Post by Grouse Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:00 am

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    That's fine - a coach has gotta defend his players from the media, that's the kind of coach you want to play for.

    The starting line up next week will tell you how Des really sees it. Have to assume that Harper has a few weeks in cup.
    For sure, I personally just dislike Harper immensely.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:01 am

    Revraiser wrote:I am not declaring Mulitalos season average, but what's been on watch for a couple of seasons now is that Mulitalo does look pretty special and aside from benfitting from Talakais service, he does move extremely well, have a nice touch on a whim type kick and is looking more involved each year, especially this year on the back of confidence. He is breaking tackles and pushing people off like never before. But as each week ticks by its easy to quote a price on a player that's already soaring, as being to pricey 'now'.  
    As a Sharks fan, it's also easy to just enjoy the show and say f#ck fantasy anyway Flip Off

    Fantasy aside, Mulitalo is a really good player. Did we work out whether he can play Origin in the end? Or whether he'll be playing for the Kiwis (or Samoa) in the World Cup?
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    Post by mattnz Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:02 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    That's fine - a coach has gotta defend his players from the media, that's the kind of coach you want to play for.

    The starting line up next week will tell you how Des really sees it. Have to assume that Harper has a few weeks in cup recovering from covid.

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