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    NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 1 - fire up the spreadsheets

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    Post by Camo123 Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:51 pm

    Welshy wrote:

    Certainly room for Fifi and his average to improve. 70 average when playing 70+ minutes

    11/21 games last season that happened

    Drops a bit under new scoring with Fifita’s love for TBs
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    Post by Papadontbleach Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:52 pm

    AL wrote:The ducking ad size on the iPhone app is disgustingly large. It’s nearly half my screen. Ducking horseshit!

    Edit: it is half my ducking screen.

    I tried to join a league on the app and I couldn't see what I was typing because the ad and the keyboard took up the whole screen.  

    I thought the amateur article was good but I'm not sure why they are so pro Harry Grant.  Last year I was too nervous and didn't take risks but I'm not sure I can pull the trigger on Harry Grant for round one.  

    Actually, they wrote a pro Harry Grant article but I'm still not 100% sold.  Not a lot of decent options for Hooker, though.
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:04 pm

    Camo123 wrote:

    Drops a bit under new scoring with Fifita’s love for TBs

    That is true mate, if he averaged 70 minutes might till eek out some value even with TB drop off, but not sure that happens
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    Post by Chewie Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:36 pm

    I disliked the app. I just use the desktop view on my phone browser.
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:09 pm

    After the discussion about McInnes a few days back I cannot get the idea of him being my set and forget Captain option out of my head. I think it is quite likely that he will play 80 minutes most weeks. Forget about Haas, Difita and Ipap.



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    Post by rhinoceroo Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:18 pm

    Papadontbleach wrote:

    I tried to join a league on the app and I couldn't see what I was typing because the ad and the keyboard took up the whole screen.  

    I thought the amateur article was good but I'm not sure why they are so pro Harry Grant.  Last year I was too nervous and didn't take risks but I'm not sure I can pull the trigger on Harry Grant for round one.  

    Actually, they wrote a pro Harry Grant article but I'm still not 100% sold.  Not a lot of decent options for Hooker, though.

    The Cowboys guy who is one half of the Amateurs (Mark?) does some pretty good analysis but he has biases like the rest of us (hence ruining his season by doubling down on no Cleary last year) and he seems to have a real hard-on for Grant "projecting" 75 minutes and a boatload of tries.

    Maybe it's my own biases but I just don't see Storm not using Cheese as hooker for a fair part of each game, particularly the early exchanges where it's proven he helps them to fast, intense starts allowing Grant to make hay when fresh against tiring defences.

    Still would prefer to start with Cook, but the extra 70k would be useful with the Grant option. That or go Randall & Clark and use the gun money for Fifita.
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    Post by Lchy Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:18 pm

    Papadontbleach wrote:

    I thought the amateur article was good but I'm not sure why they are so pro Harry Grant.  Last year I was too nervous and didn't take risks but I'm not sure I can pull the trigger on Harry Grant for round one.  

    Actually, they wrote a pro Harry Grant article but I'm still not 100% sold.  Not a lot of decent options for Hooker, though.

    I've been flipping and flopping on Grant for a couple of days, my current perspective is that if he was available rd 1 then he's probably an autopick at that price. I'll probably go for Grant or Haas/McInnes as my vc option, so getting Grant gives me a 80k odd discount, but I'm losing ~30 points by doing so.

    I read their Grant article and I do think they were maybe a bit too generous with their projections (great article though, I love everything they put out just as a fresh perspective to think from), and there is a chance Grant sticks to a lower minute role like in 2021 since that seemed to work well for the Storm. But that's also dependent on what role Cheese plays. So much is up in the air right now for that team it's a big risk.
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:08 pm

    Cleary's Average

    2016 - 53.0
    2017 - 55.9
    2018 - 51.3
    2019 - 54.6
    2020 - 73.3
    2021 - 92.8

    A notable feature that started occurring at the start of 2021 was the Panthers use of illegal blocking plays. That wise old bean Wayne Bennet publicly put an end to that after the game in Rd 23. If you have a look at Round 24 onwards (including the four finals the Panthers played in); Cleary's top score was 82 and he averaged less than 70.

    Cherry-picking (maybe) but when these tactics were exposed, Cleary struggled to score as consistently as he had all season. Are those picking him comfortable with a sub 70 average? I know I wouldn't :troll:

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    Post by Rooster Booster Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:33 pm

    Snatchpato wrote:
    I uninstalled the old app, then went back to the play store (without following a link) and installed the "same" app. Was updated for the 2022 game.

    Also, no big ad. Yay!

    Uninstalled the old app, downloaded the new app and now it says " an error occurred while communicating with the server" so I can't log in. Rolling Eyes
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    Post by rhinoceroo Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:42 pm

    Rooster Booster wrote:

    Uninstalled the old app, downloaded the new app and now it says " an error occurred while communicating with the server" so I can't log in. Rolling Eyes

    I got in in the end. Don't know why the update seems to be rolling out at different times for different people.

    There's already a bork in there for subbing players between team and bench or vice versa where it only gives you one player option for the swap not the whole available range.
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    Post by Rooster Booster Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:46 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    I got in in the end. Don't know why the update seems to be rolling out at different times for different people.

    There's already a bork in there for subbing players between team and bench or vice versa where it only gives you one player option for the swap not the whole available range.

    I might as well start panicking like our old mate who supports the Bunnies so I can get some attention Razz
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    Post by Snatchpato Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:43 am

    Rooster Booster wrote:

    Uninstalled the old app, downloaded the new app and now it says " an error occurred while communicating with the server" so I can't log in. Rolling Eyes
    Outstanding. One less person to beat me in fantasy this year. The plan is coming together...
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    Post by bigbruno Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:10 am

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:Cleary's Average

    2016 - 53.0
    2017 - 55.9
    2018 - 51.3
    2019 - 54.6
    2020 - 73.3
    2021 - 92.8

    A notable feature that started occurring at the start of 2021 was the Panthers use of illegal blocking plays. That wise old bean Wayne Bennet publicly put an end to that after the game in Rd 23. If you have a look at Round 24 onwards (including the four finals the Panthers played in); Cleary's top score was 82 and he averaged less than 70.

    Cherry-picking (maybe) but when these tactics were exposed, Cleary struggled to score as consistently as he had all season. Are those picking him comfortable with a sub 70 average? I know I wouldn't  :troll:


    For those rounds though, he was playing with a dodgy shoulder and wasn't running the ball as much as he normally would, therefor losing quite a few attacking pts generated from LB/TB/TA's etc.
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    Post by Papadontbleach Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:33 am

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:Cleary's Average

    2016 - 53.0
    2017 - 55.9
    2018 - 51.3
    2019 - 54.6
    2020 - 73.3
    2021 - 92.8

    A notable feature that started occurring at the start of 2021 was the Panthers use of illegal blocking plays. That wise old bean Wayne Bennet publicly put an end to that after the game in Rd 23. If you have a look at Round 24 onwards (including the four finals the Panthers played in); Cleary's top score was 82 and he averaged less than 70.

    Cherry-picking (maybe) but when these tactics were exposed, Cleary struggled to score as consistently as he had all season. Are those picking him comfortable with a sub 70 average? I know I wouldn't  :troll:


    I don't think it is worth the risk of starting without a player that at least half the players are going to have. You could be right and his average will drop, but it will drop for everyone. If you are wrong, you end up in a position a lot of non-Cleary starters were in last year and no money to get him in.

    I did say I was too risk adverse last year, but this is a risk I am not willing to take.

    If he is out round one or more, now that would make things interesting.
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    Post by Cookie Monster Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 am

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:Cleary's Average

    2016 - 53.0
    2017 - 55.9
    2018 - 51.3
    2019 - 54.6
    2020 - 73.3
    2021 - 92.8




    The biggest take-away from this post, is that Cleary became a superstar after he stopped playing with his Baloney  Wink
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    Post by Lemmy KGB Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:08 am

    Cookie Monster wrote:


    The biggest take-away from this post, is that Cleary became a superstar after he stopped playing with his Baloney  Wink

    And he's carried me ever since Very Happy
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:29 am

    Papadontbleach wrote:

    I don't think it is worth the risk of starting without a player that at least half the players are going to have.  You could be right and his average will drop, but it will drop for everyone. If you are wrong, you end up in a position a lot of non-Cleary starters were in last year and no money to get him in.  

    I did say I was too risk adverse last year, but this is a risk I am not willing to take.  

    If he is out round one or more, now that would make things interesting.

    Think of all the Cleary anguish in that scenario.

    Shit, Cleary did not jump out of the box this season --> No problem, two weeks is just an anomaly --> I jump off soon, everyone is in the same boat anyway --. I'll jump off soon, I can leave any time I like --> This Cleary situation is heavy, Yeah! ---> No problem he has bottomed out now --> Oh shit, my season is over and 50% of teams never had him


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    Post by Jumping Marlin Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:30 am

    If we assume Martin picks up Capewell starting 2nd row spot, and the 65mins that Capewell played, who picks up the 60mins that Martin was playing?  Sorenson?? Might be worth a spot if he was going to get 55-60 mins??
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    Post by Rabbits21 Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:35 pm

    Jumping Marlin wrote:If we assume Martin picks up Capewell starting 2nd row spot, and the 65mins that Capewell played, who picks up the 60mins that Martin was playing?  Sorenson?? Might be worth a spot if he was going to get 55-60 mins??
    Or could Leniu get more mins?
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    Post by Camo123 Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:56 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    Or could Leniu get more mins?

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