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    Post by easytiger Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:28 pm

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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:33 pm

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    Post by Lchy Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:37 pm

    To reply to Matt in the last thread - it's Ilias vs Hawkins for the 7 jersey, not Ilias vs Taaffe, that's what all the word out of Souths coaches have been all offseason. The only people considering Taaffe at halfback are fox sports staff writers.

    And that 22 avg in NSW cup last year for Ilias came from 2 games next to Dargan and Hawkins who were both the dominant kickers. In Jersey Flegg he averages 200km/game (kick metres are way lower in state cups too fwiw), averaging 35 fantasy points in 2021 and 47 in 2019 when they won the comp. He'll hit similar numbers next to Walker

    He passed the eye test nicely on debut so its probably suicide not to start with him
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    Post by Lemmy KGB Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:10 pm

    Did someone say Ryan James would get 55mins per game?
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    Post by mattnz Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:17 pm

    Lemmy KGB wrote:Did someone say Ryan James would get 55mins per game?
    Dont think anyone did. If he is starting, I am expecting him to get an average of around 50 minutes per game, down significantly from his career average of 62 minutes as starting prop.
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    Post by mattnz Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:21 pm

    Lchy wrote:To reply to Matt in the last thread - it's Ilias vs Hawkins for the 7 jersey, not Ilias vs Taaffe, that's what all the word out of Souths coaches have been all offseason. The only people considering Taaffe at halfback are fox sports staff writers.

    And that 22 avg in NSW cup last year for Ilias came from 2 games next to Dargan and Hawkins who were both the dominant kickers. In Jersey Flegg he averages 200km/game (kick metres are way lower in state cups too fwiw), averaging 35 fantasy points in 2021 and 47 in 2019 when they won the comp. He'll hit similar numbers next to Walker

    He passed the eye test nicely on debut so its probably suicide not to start with him

    Where are you seeing fantasy stats for lower grades?
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    Post by Snatchpato Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:22 pm

    Lchy wrote:re: taffe
    Thanks for pointing that out in the other thread Lchy, complete brain fart from me. For some reason I forgot Latrell existed and figured Taffe would play FB all year lol!

    Interesting chat re James. Guess I'll watch trials and listen to pressures with Kevvy and decide down the line on him.

    Still not convinced about TPJ. Is he really gunna play 80 mins when they have Jackson probably playing 80, plus RFM lurking around? I mean RFM probably eases back in and ultimately takes Hetheringtons spot, but I could easily see TPJ getting 60-70 more than 80.

    Good point re offloads though. He makes a fair few TBs though so does it even out?

    I do like the idea of the DPP though, might have to downgrade elsewhere to fit him in
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    Post by mattnz Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:29 pm

    Snatchpato wrote:
    Thanks for pointing that out in the other thread Lchy, complete brain fart from me. For some reason I forgot Latrell existed and figured Taffe would play FB all year lol!

    Interesting chat re James. Guess I'll watch trials and listen to pressures with Kevvy and decide down the line on him.

    Still not convinced about TPJ. Is he really gunna play 80 mins when they have Jackson probably playing 80, plus RFM lurking around? I mean RFM probably eases back in and ultimately takes Hetheringtons spot, but I could easily see TPJ getting 60-70 more than 80.

    Good point re offloads though. He makes a fair few TBs though so does it even out?

    I do like the idea of the DPP though, might have to downgrade elsewhere to fit him in

    Jackson played lock all last season.
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    Post by Lchy Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:32 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Where are you seeing fantasy stats for lower grades?

    https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/teams/jersey-flegg-cup/south-sydney-rabbitohs/lachlan-ilias/ here's Ilias in particular, should be on most club websites if you google [player name] jersey flegg etc etc

    Down at the bottom there's career by season/career overall and fantasy points are at the very right hand side
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    Post by Bethany_B Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:36 pm

    Snatchpato wrote:
    Thanks for pointing that out in the other thread Lchy, complete brain fart from me. For some reason I forgot Latrell existed and figured Taffe would play FB all year lol!

    Interesting chat re James. Guess I'll watch trials and listen to pressures with Kevvy and decide down the line on him.

    Still not convinced about TPJ. Is he really gunna play 80 mins when they have Jackson probably playing 80, plus RFM lurking around? I mean RFM probably eases back in and ultimately takes Hetheringtons spot, but I could easily see TPJ getting 60-70 more than 80.

    Good point re offloads though. He makes a fair few TBs though so does it even out?

    I do like the idea of the DPP though, might have to downgrade elsewhere to fit him in

    TPJ isn't a bad bet if you can't reach a top tier gun but unless you really need the MID dual, Matterson is only 15k more and extremely consistent when he isn't getting concussed.

    I personally don't have either of them because I've managed to fit Cleary/Angus/Fifita into my team.
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:42 pm

    Bethany_B wrote:

    TPJ isn't a bad bet if you can't reach a top tier gun but unless you really need the MID dual, Matterson is only 15k more and extremely consistent when he isn't getting concussed.

    I personally don't have either of them because I've managed to fit Cleary/Angus/Fifita into my team.

    I don't think there is any certainty that Matterson will start, or play close to 80 minutes as he has in the past. It is hard to pick any of the Eels forward pack with certainty for this reason. I would say that Matterson's 2020 season was the outlier and it is possible that with fewer minutes, he will regress further this year Lots of competition there
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    Post by Bethany_B Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:46 pm

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

    I don't think there is any certainty that Matterson will start, or play close to 80 minutes as he has in the past. It is hard to pick any of the Eels forward pack with certainty for this reason

    I don't see why he wouldn't start?

    Ipap is confirmed leaving and BA likes him off the bench. Niukore is also leaving, and tends to play middle anyway.

    Lane and the Carty Party aren't bad players but Matto is much better.

    I think it'll be Matto and Lane playing edge for most of the time, Carty on the bench to spell Lane, and then Ipap and Niukore in the middle rotation. Ipap may start on an edge and then move into the middle but I still think it's pretty likely for Matto to get at least 70+ mins a game if not the full 80.
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    Post by Snatchpato Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:49 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Jackson played lock all last season.
    Yeah but my point being that if he plays 80 there's less minutes in the forwards, so might be more rotation around the edges. Probably going to be some rotation at HOK so maybe that cancels it out though
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    Post by Chewie Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:51 pm

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    Post by White Lightning Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:58 pm

    The thing that worries me with Mann playing lock is what happened to Watson last year when he was named at lock then 1 hour before kick off he was benched with Sue starting at lock. O'Brien seems to like a big body to start the game when the physical battle is most intense then bring on the smaller guy after 20-30 mins.
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    Post by Bethany_B Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:05 pm

    For those of you who were doubting the Jack Howarth 5-year 500k a year deal, it's now officially confirmed, plus Reimis also just re-signed for 2 more years.

    https://www.melbournestorm.com.au/news/2022/01/27/Smith-Howarth-sign-new-contracts-with-Storm/
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:06 pm

    Bethany_B wrote:

    I don't see why he wouldn't start?

    Ipap is confirmed leaving and BA likes him off the bench. Niukore is also leaving, and tends to play middle anyway.

    Lane and the Carty Party aren't bad players but Matto is much better.

    I think it'll be Matto and Lane playing edge for most of the time, Carty on the bench to spell Lane, and then Ipap and Niukore in the middle rotation. Ipap may start on an edge and then move into the middle but I still think it's pretty likely for Matto to get at least 70+ mins a game if not the full 80.

    Matterson is likely moving on at the end of the season as well so that has little bearing on how things will play out. Campbell Gillard and Paulo will play 50 min+; Niukore; Lane; Papaliican and will spend time both in MID and on the EDG. You have got Carty, who will play some time of the EDG. You also have the possibility of Grieg, Ogden or Makatoa being named as more traditional big body props. I am pretty certain that we will see Matterson playing more like 60 minutes (possibly even starting at LOCK). I do not think you will see an 80 minute Matterson this year.

    https://thecumberlandthrow.com/2022/01/26/eels-pre-season-training-january-24-26-2022-a-lift-in-intensity/


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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:10 pm

    Bethany_B wrote:For those of you who were doubting the Jack Howarth 5-year 500k a year deal, it's now officially confirmed, plus Reimis also just re-signed for 2 more years.

    https://www.melbournestorm.com.au/news/2022/01/27/Smith-Howarth-sign-new-contracts-with-Storm/

    It doesn't mention money anywhere there. It was the 500k not the contract that was the doubt.
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    Post by Chewie Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:11 pm

    White Lightning wrote:The thing that worries me with Mann playing lock is what happened to Watson last year when he was named at lock then 1 hour before kick off he was benched with Sue starting at lock. O'Brien seems to like a big body to start the game when the physical battle is most intense then bring on the smaller guy after 20-30 mins.

    I'm curious to see how they line up this season.
    Mann at 13 or 14
    Barnett at EDG or 13
    Brodie Jones at EGD or bench

    Mann will probably give Randall a breather at some stage

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