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    NRL Fantasy 2021 Part 49 - Funtime Fifita

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    Post by gouds Fri May 14, 2021 9:53 am

    Currently struggling with either trading out fifita to TPJ/matterson or trading stefano to one of CHN/Curran/Flegler. Other trade is eitehr Simpkin/Leniu/Egan to Gamble.

    I have money riding in two leagues, a H2H and total points with which I'm running 2nd in both (Only 4 mates in the leagues). I know the leader won't trade out fifita, and I'm currently 150 points behind him, so my thinking is if I trade out Fifita, I could catch him in the overall points league, but possibly lose out in the H2H as it will be hard to get Fifita back.
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    Post by hymenbustas Fri May 14, 2021 9:54 am

    Was thinking I should bank a trade but looking at my emg with 3 red dots and not making any cash is not ideal. Time to let Niu go I think. 

    Niu to Gamble
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Fri May 14, 2021 9:56 am

    gouds wrote:Currently struggling with either trading out fifita to TPJ/matterson or trading stefano to one of CHN/Curran/Flegler. Other trade is eitehr Simpkin/Leniu/Egan to Gamble.

    I have money riding in two leagues, a H2H and total points with which I'm running 2nd in both (Only 4 mates in the leagues). I know the leader won't trade out fifita, and I'm currently 150 points behind him, so my thinking is if I trade out Fifita, I could catch him in the overall points league, but possibly lose out in the H2H as it will be hard to get Fifita back.

    I'd be trading Fifita mate - keeping that much $ on the sidelines for next 3/4 games is crazy IMO. Stefano is worth the hold too, as I think there is a good chance he plays 13.
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    Post by Weiland Fri May 14, 2021 9:57 am

    I am kind of thankful in some ways Starling isn't really an option for me to stress over. I would be considering him if I could afford to trade Stefano/Simpkin to him but the only way I would be able to get him is to trade Grant and I would much rather Matterson/Api.

    I am in a bit of a bad way though, only banked one trade and still have Roberts/Simpkin/Fifita in my side even after trading. I think my plan will be to not bother with the bye rounds and hope that pays off for me later on when people start running out of trades.
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    Post by danseels1985 Fri May 14, 2021 9:58 am

    If you are in my situation and you have the option to sell both Ponga and Fifita which any two players do you pick? Was thinking of Fogarty who has a lower BE and TPJ but I don’t want to miss Turbo. It’s hard having almost 1.7m to spend because I already have Haas and Harris and not sure which other players I should prioritise. Any thoughts?
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    Post by Milchcow Fri May 14, 2021 10:01 am

    mattnz wrote:
    CHN was available at the same time as Curran showed up. Got Curran after his 66 for a cheaper price and more points. Was a much better pick up which has made twice the cash already

    Curran was a risk too.

    He's done well and it looks like the risk will pay off, but you couldn't say with confidence 3 weeks ago that this is how it would turn out. The Warriors pack has changed almost as much as the Raiders from week to week.
    Curran has been a constant for the last month, but the Warriors have used 6 different edge players this season, it doesn't seem a stable position.
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    Post by BCT05 Fri May 14, 2021 10:04 am

    danseels1985 wrote:If you are in my situation and you have the option to sell both Ponga and Fifita which any two players do you pick? Was thinking of Fogarty who has a lower BE and TPJ but I don’t want to miss Turbo. It’s hard having almost 1.7m to spend because I already have Haas and Harris and not sure which other players I should prioritise. Any thoughts?

    Who are your wfb's without Ponga?
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    Post by mrbrownstone Fri May 14, 2021 10:09 am

    What do people think of JFH as a R13 option?

    If Pap is a late out Stefano -> JFH is probably my back up plan to field 17.
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    Post by danseels1985 Fri May 14, 2021 10:09 am

    BCT05 wrote:

    Who are your wfb's without Ponga?

    Teddy,Pap and Laurie
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    Post by Moanaman Fri May 14, 2021 10:10 am

    And this is the sound of a Hamstring tearing at the 30mtr line.....

    100m Dash during Magic Round

    Great News for us non Turbo owners....
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    Post by wolfking Fri May 14, 2021 10:10 am

    mrbrownstone wrote:What do people think of JFH as a R13 option?

    If Pap is a late out Stefano -> JFH is probably my back up plan to field 17.

    Yeah, I don't mind him for the price.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri May 14, 2021 10:10 am

    Rippin and Tearin wrote:

    Yup, this is very good advice. I take that to mean both projecting out trades and cash flow. It takes a bit of effort to do this. And the shitty thing is, you invariably have to re-do the analysis each week as curve balls get thrown at you. It's well worth it though.

    I also suspect, from reading this thread, and helpfully recalling previous seasons well enough, that the end game that people are aiming for in terms of final squad, might have to be tempered a little, due to all the injuries and subsequent trades burnt, meaning cash generation this year may well be quite a bit lower than usual. All just a hunch though as Im not actually playing in the NRLF comp this year.

    Would that be correct MS? I mean in past seasons you'd be hoping for close to a gun 17 + a solid 18th man, maybe another average player for cover at 19, and then two red dots from about round 19. Is that looking possible this year?

    Yep need to project forward trades and also cash flow. Cash flow doesn't need to be exact but you need a general idea on if you can afford to spend 800k on the flavour of the week that just scored 100, or if you should take the 650k option that didn't just score 3 tries

    Seems that a lot of people that have burnt trades going sideways, chasing flavour of the week as well as injuries + suspension so will not get an ideal 17

    I'm not too sure on exactly how others are tracking, but for me I'm sacrificing the "perfect" 17 for the run home and instead aiming to make up ground in the bye rounds. Running with someone like Fogarty instead of DCE will cost a few points in the run home, but more than makes up for it during the byes
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    Post by BCT05 Fri May 14, 2021 10:15 am

    danseels1985 wrote:

    Teddy,Pap and Laurie

    Strong enough that I don't think you need Turbo, hopefully you have cover this week for Papy if he's out.

    Fogarty and TPJ are solid trade in's, obvious rd13 targets, Matto an option instead of TPJ if you don't already have him. Wouldn't over think it, Turbo is up in price off the back of a couple big scores and doesn't play 13
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    Post by mattnz Fri May 14, 2021 10:16 am

    Moanaman wrote:And this is the sound of a Hamstring tearing at the 30mtr line.....

    100m Dash during Magic Round

    Great News for us non Turbo owners....
    They should have run it at the Corso
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    Post by Chewie Fri May 14, 2021 10:17 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    I personally am still aiming for a pretty good final squad but my bye rounds are going to suffer. It won't be an ideal 17, but it very rarely is across all positions.
    Spending so many trades on injuries means I can't afford to bring  someone in just for a couple of weeks over byes though

    Yeah I won't have the luxury to be trading players in and out just to make up numbers for round 17. I'll be aiming to get the rd17 keepers (Tohu, Taumalolo, AFB, and maybe Starling, Rapana & RTS) and maybe a couple cows like Verrills and Suaalii.
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    Post by BCT05 Fri May 14, 2021 10:18 am

    mrbrownstone wrote:What do people think of JFH as a R13 option?

    If Pap is a late out Stefano -> JFH is probably my back up plan to field 17.

    He's solid. I don't mind McGuire either as another option
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    Post by mattnz Fri May 14, 2021 10:23 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Yep need to project forward trades and also cash flow. Cash flow doesn't need to be exact but you need a general idea on if you can afford to spend 800k on the flavour of the week that just scored 100, or if you should take the 650k option that didn't just score 3 tries

    Seems that a lot of people that have burnt trades going sideways, chasing flavour of the week as well as injuries + suspension so will not get an ideal 17

    I'm not too sure on exactly how others are tracking, but for me I'm sacrificing the "perfect" 17 for the run home and instead aiming to make up ground in the bye rounds. Running with someone like Fogarty instead of DCE will cost a few points in the run home, but more than makes up for it during the byes
    Yeah I have been working out that with trades available and options in round 17 I won't be close to max trading between the rounds. Anyone that is undervalued now, plays 17 and should significantly increase in value between now and round 14 is just as valuable as a round 13 player. Most here are over valuing round 13 vs round 17 availability.
    I may have a couple less than some for round 13 but should also have a couple more in round 17 to balance it out


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    Post by Mulvy Fri May 14, 2021 10:24 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    I'd consider going a week early on Welch to Koro. Koro probably scores an extra 10-15 points on Welch (that Storm bench though) and the price difference probably only gets 10-15k closer.

    With Roberts only long term red dot(I'm assuming Simpkin returns) I would probably hold him. If you planned to hold Schuster through round 13 moving him on to Lolo would give you a points boost and same number of players for bye, although I'd probably go Tohu for some security in minutes.

    Tough week for 2nd trade it might be worth just banking

    wolfking wrote:

    Probably worth banking another one mate.  Your team is awesome.

    Cheers Fellas
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    Post by Snatchpato Fri May 14, 2021 10:27 am

    Elements of my run-on side + EMG may be lackluster, but by God do I have a strong INT:

    Moses Schuster Macca Tohu 

    I will be focusing on that awesomeness when I score 750 this week.
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    Post by filthridden Fri May 14, 2021 10:29 am

    So my options that I still haven't fully landed on:

    Fifita ---> Haas

    This is pretty much locked in and gives me the following options in order of my preference:

    Egan ---> Gamble

    Gives me a round 13 player who is also now my back up half if Walker is out

    Egan ---> Starling

    Leaves me with no back up half if Walker is out and high risk/reward on Starlings minutes/
    Potential for a season keeper but two wasted trades if he fails + doesn't play 13 and doesn't help with any positional cover in my team (four hookers + Watson)

    Walker ---> Moses

    Early trade out of Walker who still has cash to make however could be out this round.
    Brings in a round 13 keeper but also leaves Egan in my team to score shit and drop cash

    What would you do?

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