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    NRL Fantasy 2021 - Part 9 - ‘Twas the weekend before TLT

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    Post by Loomer Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:21 am

    @Ponga Yeo the Mann wrote: but milfs low price and scoring history is juicy

    A dollar for everytime I saw this posted last season but maybe this is the time
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    Post by sgdragons10 Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:24 am

    hey guys i posted my team in the assistant coach thread if you guys could check it out
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    Post by rhinoceroo Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:29 am

    @Mr Snrub wrote:I'm starting with Isaako. Even playing for a team as bad as the Broncos last year he still put up some decent scores at fullback. The risk of those scores in the 20's is there but for the price paid I think he's good value.  


    He's *still* playing with a team as bad as the Broncos though.
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    Post by mattnz Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:31 am

    @sgdragons10 wrote:hey guys i posted my team in the assistant coach thread if you guys could check it out
    You should update the team tracker link in your profile. It takes you to your 2020 team
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    Post by Cookie Monster Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:42 am

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    Post by mattnz Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:43 am

    @rhinoceroo wrote:

    He's *still* playing with a team as bad as the Broncos though.

    This year's broncos is looking like last year's. Missing key players in their forwards from last season and their best back in Staggs.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:48 am

    #FoxSportHeadlinesThatSoundLikePornos https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2021-wests-tigers-team-james-roberts-david-nofoaluma-round-1-housemates/news-story/e7ed1c9335a1dfc51e08c6f8b1b4703f
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    Post by MayorofAlburquerque Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:12 am

    For those banking on the 'Tedesco Starts Slowly' theory, when and how exactly do you plan on picking him up? Its going to cost you whatever Teddy's worth plus a cow; probably around $900k-$1mil. You're basically banking on one of your guns getting injured or a mid-ranger rocketing up in price within 3-4 weeks to bridge the gap - however, there'd be the temptation to keep them to maximise price increases.

    Last year Teddy's two low scores (30 & 51) brought his price down $48k. However, this coincided with the 4-trade round and the injury to DFifi, which freed up enough cash to facilitate the trade pretty easily. He then banged out 94 and 111, so everyone who managed that looked like a genius. In 2019 he plummeted $170k after 2 rounds then scored 86. But that would have still required coaches to free up at least $928k in cap. 2018 was a little less clear; by Rd4 he was down about $50k but still at $714k. If you miss the Rd2-4 dip, you're then looking at him bottoming out in price during Origin (Rd 9 in 2020, Rd 14 2019, Rd11 2018) which isn't the best time, or post-Origin which only gives 6-8 games this year, anticipating some rest periods.

    The 'Topes have previously subscribed to this theory and hoped to capitalise later in the year, but by that point there's usually more issues to address than at a poorly managed nuclear power plant. This year we're trying something different.

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    Post by Mulvy Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:13 am

    I'm with Welshy on this one. Just don't trust the value at WFB. Will be Teddy/Pappy/Nuffy.

    The Nuffy is unlikely to be Hoy. Happy to punt on Laurie if named, maybe simonsson, niu, ieremia or even, gulp, Moylan if nothing turns up.
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    Post by Antipodean1 Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:15 am

    @Camo123 wrote:Teddy actually averaged 68.8 under the 6 again rules in regular season (above 60 mins, which excludes when Sivo ran over him, 66 regular season with it included)

    Including finals and Origin (and excluding 20 min game) averages 66 (including Sivo game)


    OK that does it I am locking in Teddy, with a little added kicking, there is too much of a drop off with the FB possie this year.
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    Post by TheWeapon Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:15 am

    @Welshy wrote:
    On paper RTS and Papy looks so much stronger, but Tedesco Is tough to get and you are already planning on trading Hoy to a different stepping stone before even getting Teddy in. I’m currently on Teddy and Papy because I hate the value in WFB

    I currently have RTS and Papy, but I can see stinkwaves coming off RTS....I'm not convinced he'll be better than last year. Would love to find the extra 200k to swap him for Teddy, but I don't think I can happily do it...
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    Post by Tookey Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:24 am

    Alot of talk about not starting with the likes of Teddy or even Cleary. Yes they may drop in price but even so a few injuries elsewhere can change a whole gameplan.
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    Post by Chewie Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:30 am

    @Ponga Yeo the Mann wrote:Someone talk me into or out of Milford

    And it may have already happened but the milf vs brooks as value picks? Brooks looks the safer play but milfs low price and scoring history is juicy

    2020 was the year from hell for Milford. He started of well the first 2 rounds pre-covid, with the young bucks looking full of promise for the new season ahead.
    I'm not sure what happened during the lockdown, but the Broncos returned to the field a different team in round 3. Some may call this the Seibold effect.
    Fantasy wise Milf's scores plumetted to a sub thirty average, he lost his Mojo along with the rest of the team.
    Now with a different coach, who has a playing philosophy that suits Milfords game, things can only improve right?
    Potentially add CS9 to the mix and you are of to the horses.

    I personally have Milf as my 18th man at the moment. I'm not confident enough to put him next to Cleary in my team just yet. But I cannot ignore him having the potential of getting back to his ussual avg of 50 odd points, that's a 20 point boost.
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:45 am

    @Milchcow wrote:
    On Laurie, if he doesn't start I won't have him. He's cheap so when he does start he'll be easy to bring in then.
    the worst possibility is named in 18 but late game day inclusion. Tigers play late so trade out options may be locked out
    I think Laurie starts thanks to Brooks’ GK while Doueihi was on the field. Doueihi is going to kick in Rd 2, and in so the Rd 1 Mbye would be the logical kicker. Since Brooks was kicking, and has never before (as far as I know) Mbye mustn’t be starting in the 13. Mbye’s injury was never going to keep him out of Rd 1 apparently.
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    Post by mintotheimmortal Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:51 am

    I’m extremely tempted by milf as well. Change of coach even though I don’t rate Walters the highest he should get more out of milf than seibold. On top of that hasn’t he moved to right side? If so should indicate he’ll still have decent kicking opportunity being on the preferred side for a right footer. This is on top of the obvious previous pedigree he has shown
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    Post by MayorofAlburquerque Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:58 am

    Milf's a really hard player to project this year. His 2018-2019 +50 average was built on the back of 360km per game - which is not going to happen. Prior in 2016-17 he averaged 45 with 140KM per game. Last year's disaster he had 235km per game for his worst average ever but in that team its not surprising. Even in his good years he threw up a 20-30s every few games. Surely there's some improvement from the change in system. His KMs give him some base, but his potential is all contingent on converting attacking stats. Priced at 32 so he's only got to get to mid 40s to be a success.

    I guess the worrying thing is that Carty had a +50 season and we all know how that party turned out in the years following.
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    Post by mintotheimmortal Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:59 am

    Also a bit of personal bias as I’m a big fan of him but is leota a genuine option?

    Currently deciding between:

    Lodge + Milf

    leota + currently davey (413k spare though)

    Leota has never played more than 43 minutes so Is hoping for approx 50 a game too wishful?
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:00 pm

    @Antipodean1 wrote:


    This is exactly what happened to me mate, Teddy at 850k gives me the speed wobbles bigtime.

    Cook, Crichton, DCE are all better starting opitions imho.

    But like Welshy said earlier getting Teddy in at the back end can get really hard.

    I just can't bring myself to start Teddy when I have choices between Brimson and RTS to work alongside Papy to start the year out.
    Not having Teddy is not the issue, as long as the money you save is used wisely. As long as you have angus or Cleary for Captaining purposes, then does Teddy and Welch equal the same score as Paps and Harris for example. One on one then there is no comparison to Teddy, but going without Teddy potentially upgrades two or three players. Good luck not owning him though.
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:13 pm

    @multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Positionless benches mean you can trade someone like Watson to Teddy when he makes 250-300k. The next week (or the same week) you can downgrade your mid range WFB for a cash cow
    Why are you getting rid of Watson in this scenario, he must be close to a keeper. Also, if you don’t start with Teddy, when are you going to get him in? Post Origin I suppose.
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:18 pm

    @mintotheimmortal wrote:Also a bit of personal bias as I’m a big fan of him but is leota a genuine option?

    Currently deciding between:

    Lodge + Milf

    leota + currently davey (413k spare though)

    Leota has never played more than 43 minutes so Is hoping for approx 50 a game too wishful?

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