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    NRL Fantasy 2021 - Part 9 - ‘Twas the weekend before TLT

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    Post by Camo123 Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:31 am

    @Moanaman wrote:So is Hoy the new Lomax? Worse case scenario is I use him as a lo*p

    Still convinced Lomax wouldn't have kept getting big scores at FB

    Hoy is definitely not new Lomax, he has limited shelf life and there's no way he stays in 17 after Ponga returns with 5/8 taken by Green, Mann taking utility spot

    If he does end up on bench, probably worse than being out of 17 because then would lose all cash gained.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:33 am

    @Camo123 wrote:

    Still convinced Lomax wouldn't have kept getting big scores at FB


    Hoy is definitely not new Lomax, he has limited shelf life and there's no way he stays in 17 after Ponga returns with 5/8 taken by Green, Mann taking utility spot

    If he does end up on bench, probably worse than being out of 17 because then would lose all cash gained.

    He wouldn't have. He would have been playing NSW cup
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    Post by Antipodean1 Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:35 am

    @mattnz wrote:
    Likely end up wasting too many trades on fullback, going Hoy > Isaako > Gun.


    Yeah you are probably right on reflection


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    Post by Mr Snrub Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:35 am

    I'm starting with Isaako. Even playing for a team as bad as the Broncos last year he still put up some decent scores at fullback. The risk of those scores in the 20's is there but for the price paid I think he's good value.

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    Post by Welshy Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:36 am

    @multiple.scoregasms wrote:I think the same logic I used on not starting with Haas last season can be applied to Teddy this year

    Given that we can't have guns at every position to start the season, there is no difference between having HOK 60 WFB 30 then WFB 60 HOK 30. In my opinion the most important thing for squad balance is making sure you have two decent captain options to go along with under priced players.

    Two main concerns if I don't start with Teddy. Taking goal kicking when Tauk is off the field, does Teddy elevate his game and have more stability in his scores? If I don't start with Teddy, when do you trade him in? First upgrade targets are probably going to be guys like Haas, Taumalolo who we expect to drop a bit of cash. That leaves very little cash to grab someone like Teddy before origin

    Would mean rolling the dice on some very cheap WFB options, which was much easier when Turbo was fit.
    Agree.

    I also like to combine the value of the choices and points potential when I’m struggling to decide, in this scenario

    Example
    HK Cook 64 $856,000 + WFB Isaako 40 (high end) $399,000

    WFB Tedesco 64 $850,000 + HK Brailey 48 $410,000
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    Post by WT Winfield Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:36 am

    Cheers for the shoutout Revs cheer

    Giving fantasy a miss this year, but keen for the footy to get underway. Looking forward to just following a few teams and players and not worrying about the fantasy implications. Expectations for Tigers and Sharks are low, and Storm will be exciting to watch as usual, so should be a cracker season Laughing

    Will be around to partake in the shitposting from the safety of the sidelines still of course Very Happy Hopefully a good fantasy season for you and a couple others, couldn't give a shit about the rest of you lot Laughing
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    Post by Welshy Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:38 am

    @WT Winfield wrote:Cheers for the shoutout Revs cheer

    Giving fantasy a miss this year, but keen for the footy to get underway. Looking forward to just following a few teams and players and not worrying about the fantasy implications. Expectations for Tigers and Sharks are low, and Storm will be exciting to watch as usual, so should be a cracker season Laughing

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    Post by my tv broke Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:40 am

    @Welshy wrote:
    Agree.

    I also like to combine the value of the choices and points potential when I’m struggling to decide, in this scenario

    Example
    HK Cook 64 $856,000 + WFB Isaako 40 (high end) $399,000

    WFB Tedesco 64 $850,000 + HK Brailey 48 $410,000

    Depends if Brailey is actually part of those options. For me, hes in my team regardless.

    The alternative to isaako is some other nuff in the 400k range with, in my opinion, more questionable scoring potential, as well as job security concerns
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:41 am

    @Welshy wrote:
    Agree.

    I also like to combine the value of the choices and points potential when I’m struggling to decide, in this scenario

    Example
    HK Cook 64 $856,000 + WFB Isaako 40 (high end) $399,000

    WFB Tedesco 64 $850,000 + HK Brailey 48 $410,000

    Think I'd rather roll the dice on Oates/Moylan/Smith/Simonsson/Niu/Laurie rather than splashing the cash for Isaako

    WFB seems pretty bad this year below gun tier, so unless I end up with Teddy/Papy/RTS there will be some level of risk
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    Post by Mr Snrub Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:43 am

    @Camo123 wrote:

    Still convinced Lomax wouldn't have kept getting big scores at FB

    Hoy is definitely not new Lomax, he has limited shelf life and there's no way he stays in 17 after Ponga returns with 5/8 taken by Green, Mann taking utility spot

    If he does end up on bench, probably worse than being out of 17 because then would lose all cash gained.

    Last year I didn't pick Lomax because I was convinced he'd suck at fullback.

    I was right but I couldn't possibly have foreseen him becoming Mr 40+ every week as a pure centre.

    Maybe Hoy kills it those opening 4 rounds and I'm made a fool of but I agree that there's not really a big risk of him being the new Lomax because there isn't an obvious position for Hoy to slot into the team outside of fullback.
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    Post by Welshy Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:46 am

    @multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Think I'd rather roll the dice on Oates/Moylan/Smith/Simonsson/Niu/Laurie rather than splashing the cash for Isaako

    WFB seems pretty bad this year below gun tier, so unless I end up with Teddy/Papy/RTS there will be some level of risk
    Yeah was just picking a value of equal price so they matched mate. I’d also back 1/2 of those to beat Isaakos points/price value
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    Post by WT Winfield Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:49 am

    @Welshy wrote:
    No way mate? All good I hope

    Yeah mate, sweet as  Very Happy  Wanted a break last year, but got dragged in last minute and then ended playing BBL too. Damn thing does my head in with TLT, 24 hour cuts, 1 hour cuts for 8 games a week and half of them are teams I hate anyway.

    Finals and origin back-to-back reminded me how good it is not to worry about all the fantasy stuff. Regular season might start to bore me without fantasy though, so probably be back next year re-invigorated.

    Either way, I'll still be keeping up with the goings-on around here pirat Good luck to the rest of you pricks too Laughing
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    Post by robelgordo Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:53 am

    @multiple.scoregasms wrote:Given that we can't have guns at every position to start the season, there is no difference between having HOK 60 WFB 30 then WFB 60 HOK 30.

    My initial reaction here was “ I dont agree with this”, but on reflection I’m thinking too much with a draft mentality.

    By the end of the season I think there is absolutely more value in having Teddy over say Cook though (assuming 2020 scores).
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    Post by Camo123 Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:00 am

    Teddy actually averaged 68.8 under the 6 again rules in regular season (above 60 mins, which excludes when Sivo ran over him, 66 regular season with it included)

    Including finals and Origin (and excluding 20 min game) averages 66 (including Sivo game)

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    Post by Camo123 Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:00 am

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    Post by Snatchpato Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:06 am

    Think I'm gunna start without Cleary. I can see him averaging 70 over the course of the year, but his price will drop from a slump in form at some point (and by slump I mean a run of mid 50s-60s) which would be a good time to upgrade a FOG that I'm planning to start with. 

    I think it'll be much harder to upgrade to Teddy as there are few mid tier backs that will come even close to Teddy in price.
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    Post by Ponga Yeo the Mann Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:11 am

    @Snatchpato wrote:Think I'm gunna start without Cleary. I can see him averaging 70 over the course of the year, but his price will drop from a slump in form at some point (and by slump I mean a run of mid 50s-60s) which would be a good time to upgrade a FOG that I'm planning to start with. 

    I think it'll be much harder to upgrade to Teddy as there are few mid tier backs that will come even close to Teddy in price.

    I don’t hate the idea but that argument doesn’t really hold true

    Tedesco far bigger fluctuations in scoring and more likely to have a lower price to grab him at some stage of the season than Cleary whose base is off the charts

    If I didn’t have to pick a captain I’d probably go without Cleary
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:12 am

    @Snatchpato wrote:Think I'm gunna start without Cleary. I can see him averaging 70 over the course of the year, but his price will drop from a slump in form at some point (and by slump I mean a run of mid 50s-60s) which would be a good time to upgrade a FOG that I'm planning to start with. 

    I think it'll be much harder to upgrade to Teddy as there are few mid tier backs that will come even close to Teddy in price.

    Positionless benches mean you can trade someone like Watson to Teddy when he makes 250-300k. The next week (or the same week) you can downgrade your mid range WFB for a cash cow
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    Post by Ponga Yeo the Mann Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:13 am

    Someone talk me into or out of Milford

    And it may have already happened but the milf vs brooks as value picks? Brooks looks the safer play but milfs low price and scoring history is juicy

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