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    Post by FaringdonSwirl Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:31 am

    I'm going to be taking down some notes from the boys on the Outta Their League fantasy podcast. They're starting the season with a series detailing their thoughts on each position so will be posting those in here as they comes out. Mostly for myself but if it helps someone else then all the better.

    Feel free to post your reactions!

    Edit: will also have some summaries for the fantasy relevant content from the “talking league fantasy podcast”


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    Post by FaringdonSwirl Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:33 am

    CTR
    Notes on centre: looking for a cheaper player that has the potential to outscore their price by ~10 points. Lower priority position to spend cap on. Generally good value in the cheaper options.

    Cheapies
    Jake Averillo 302k DPP may play 6
    Matthew Timoko 275k* short term option likely to replace Croker for 3-4 weeks
    Max Feagai Minimum price* Gap left by Euan Aitken, Worth looking at if starting
    Michael Oldfield Don’t do it. He’s a trap.

    Mid range
    Will Hopoate 395k More attacking opportunities this year. Decent base
    Latrell Mitchell 493k* High highs but low lows.
    Braidon Burns 378k* Worth keeping an eye on if he starts
    James Roberts 336k* Good attacking player if he has his head right
    Brian Kelly 464k* Average down due to some games on wing. Finished strong 2020.
    Esan Marsters 386k* Disappointing last year, can see him bouncing back
    Jack Bird Unsure on price. Worth a look if he starts
    Patrick Herbert 343k* Decent base stats. Could get goal kicking.
    Jesse Ramien 431k High ceiling if he plays to his potential

    Premiums
    Not players to start the year with
    Zac Lomax 627k*
    Bradman Best 595k*
    Campbell Graham 580k*
    Euan Aitkin 561k*
    Joseph Manu 559k*

    Byron
    Boom – Brian Kelly
    Bust – Premiums. Don’t start with them
    Cow – Jake Averillo

    Liam
    Boom – James Roberts
    Bust – Latrell Mitchell
    Cow – Jake Averillo
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:14 am

    @FaringdonSwirl wrote:I'm going to be taking down some notes from the boys on the Outta Their League fantasy podcast. They're starting the season with a series detailing their thoughts on each position so will be posting those in here as they comes out. Mostly for myself but if it helps someone else then all the better.

    Feel free to post your reactions!
    Great idea mate I love their content and also listen.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:15 am

    @FaringdonSwirl wrote:CTR
    Notes on centre: looking for a cheaper player that has the potential to outscore their price by ~10 points. Lower priority position to spend cap on. Generally good value in the cheaper options.

    Cheapies
    Jake Averillo 302k DPP may play 6
    Matthew Timoko 275k* short term option likely to replace Croker for 3-4 weeks
    Max Feagai Minimum price* Gap left by Euan Aitken, Worth looking at if starting
    Michael Oldfield Don’t do it. He’s a trap.

    Mid range
    Will Hopoate 395k More attacking opportunities this year. Decent base
    Latrell Mitchell 493k* High highs but low lows.
    Braidon Burns 378k* Worth keeping an eye on if he starts
    James Roberts 336k* Good attacking player if he has his head right
    Brian Kelly 464k* Average down due to some games on wing. Finished strong 2020.
    Esan Marsters 386k* Disappointing last year, can see him bouncing back
    Jack Bird Unsure on price. Worth a look if he starts
    Patrick Herbert 343k* Decent base stats. Could get goal kicking.
    Jesse Ramien 431k High ceiling if he plays to his potential

    Premiums
    Not players to start the year with
    Zac Lomax 627k*
    Bradman Best 595k*
    Campbell Graham 580k*
    Euan Aitkin 561k*
    Joseph Manu 559k*

    Byron
    Boom – Brian Kelly
    Bust – Premiums. Don’t start with them
    Cow – Jake Averillo

    Liam
    Boom – James Roberts
    Bust – Latrell Mitchell
    Cow – Jake Averillo
    May I also add Dylan Walker at 317k, they forgot him.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:01 am

    I like the OTL podcast, they know what they're talking about (one probably a bit more than the other) and they're far, far better than the late mail knuckleheads.

    It's good that they're keen to put out content but it is probably a bit too early to be doing this, and especially hard with centre where teams and DPPs will be upended with trials and TLT.

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    Post by FaringdonSwirl Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:18 am

    @rhinoceroo wrote:I like the OTL podcast, they know what they're talking about (one probably a bit more than the other) and they're far, far better than the late mail knuckleheads.

    It's good that they're keen to put out content but it is probably a bit too early to be doing this, and especially hard with centre where teams and DPPs will be upended with trials and TLT.


    Yeah good point it is pretty early. I'll carry on with it anyway even if it's just for my own learning.
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    Post by FaringdonSwirl Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:48 am

    WFB

    Cheapies
    Bailey Simonsen 246k Might fit in EMG well. Likely to score a bit low to start
    Fantesi Niu 263k Could start WFB or CTR. Needs to score around 30 to be worth starting
    Reimis Smith 300k Low base, but high upside at the Storm. Good EMG option
    Matt Moylan 310k Likely to start at 6 or 1. Injury concerns
    Cody Ramsey 342k Worth a look if starting

    Mid range
    Charlie Staines 637k* Looks to have secured a start. Need to see some base before committing
    Corey Allen 416k Need to see how he settles in before committing
    Valentine Holmes 498k Likely to GK. Talented enough to become cutpriced keeper. Needs to stay injury free
    Tom Trbojevic 477k Great average at WFB but repeatedly injures his hammies. Stay away in draft format

    Premiums
    Tier 1
    James Tedesco 850k Probably need him in your team at some stage. Generally starts season slow but get him in early if you can
    Kalyn Ponga 804k Looks like may miss early rounds, so probably don’t want to start with him

    Tier 2
    Roger Tuivasa-Sheck 626k Like him with the new Warriors forwards
    Ryan Papenhuyzen 658k Might pick up GK. Unlikely to start with
    Dylan Edwards 669k Has some injury issues. May pick up some carries off Mansour who has left
    Alex Brimson 667k Finished the season in great form. Titans pack looking good. Could be a draft pickup

    Byron
    Boom – Valentine Holmes
    Bust – Corey Allan
    Cow – Fantesi Niu

    Liam
    Boom – Matt Moylan
    Bust – Charlie Staines
    Cow – Matt Moylan


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    Post by robelgordo Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:27 pm

    Can you also recap their manscape ad reads?
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    Post by FaringdonSwirl Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:17 pm

    @robelgordo wrote:Can you also recap their manscape ad reads?

    I skip them to be honest! OTL20 at the checkout for 20% off though.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:01 am

    Another decent fantasy podcast has started up https://www.talkingleaguepod.com/

    On one listen I'd rank it below OTL but ahead of Kennedy and Late Mail.
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:50 am

    @rhinoceroo wrote:Another decent fantasy podcast has started up https://www.talkingleaguepod.com/

    On one listen I'd rank it below OTL but ahead of Kennedy and Late Mail.

    I haven't listened yet, but he has a few good interviews coming up. One with Terry Matterson (now broncos assistant), apparently some good chat about how players will be used this year
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    Post by tristanknell13 Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:36 pm

    Hey guys, TK from Talking League. I appreciate the plug of the first podcast.

    We will be dropping a team analysis of each team which will feature insights from a player or coach. We've recorded the following to drop in the next week or so.

    Brisbane - Terry Matterson
    Dragons - Matt Elliott
    Roosters - Craig Fitztgibbon
    Parra - David Kidwell
    Raiders - Brett White
    Warriors - Justin Morgan

    Got to record in the next week or so with Chad Townsend, Jamal Fogarty, Kyle Flangan, Billy Walters and a few others.

    Will drop some positional podcasts as well.

    Also doing some Q&A shows and if you want a question played on the podcast just call the hotline on 02 8405 7947

    Some cash prize comps for fantasy and tipping ahead to, the GOAT Jeremy Latimore is doing a weekly tipping segments.

    Any questions or feedback send them through

    Cheers Legends

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    Post by rhinoceroo Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:31 pm

    @tristanknell13 wrote:Hey guys, TK from Talking League. I appreciate the plug of the first podcast.

    We will be dropping a team analysis of each team which will feature insights from a player or coach. We've recorded the following to drop in the next week or so.

    Brisbane - Terry Matterson
    Dragons - Matt Elliott
    Roosters - Craig Fitztgibbon
    Parra - David Kidwell
    Raiders - Brett White
    Warriors - Justin Morgan

    Got to record in the next week or so with Chad Townsend, Jamal Fogarty, Kyle Flangan, Billy Walters and a few others.

    Will drop some positional podcasts as well.

    Also doing some Q&A shows and if you want a question played on the podcast just call the hotline on 02 8405 7947

    Some cash prize comps for fantasy and tipping ahead to, the GOAT Jeremy Latimore is doing a weekly tipping segments.

    Any questions or feedback send them through

    Cheers Legends

    TK

    And now I have to amend my rankings to put you ahead of OTL... (they're different types of show, OTL is like two guys off the fantasy forums chatting, while Talking League is more professionally produced and has insightful guests that look like they'll be more about real life RL than fantasy).

    The more the merrier, look forward to the shows
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    Post by Milchcow Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:33 am

    Welcome TK

    That is an impressive list of guest you have. I haven't listened to your podcast yet (like others have mentioned, I think its a bit early to worry about positional analysis) but I'll tune in for th eteam analysis

    best of luck for the season.
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    Post by tristanknell13 Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:37 am

    Cheers lads and always open to feedback or suggestions. I would love to develop a show that both fantasy lovers and the punters can mix and love.

    So hit me up any time.

    If you're into player long form stuff I have a podcast Talking with TK, mix of all sport probably 80% NRL though. I prefer the legends and coaches but a few current guys on there as well.
    Warning though its long form so 60-90 mins a pod.

    Enjoy the season

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    Post by Milchcow Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:59 am


    Just as friendly note, if you are searching for the podcast on a podcast app, its under the name "Talking with TK"
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    Post by Chewie Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:06 pm

    @tristanknell13 wrote:Cheers lads and always open to feedback or suggestions. I would love to develop a show that both fantasy lovers and the punters can mix and love.

    So hit me up any time.

    If you're into player long form stuff I have a podcast Talking with TK, mix of all sport probably 80% NRL though. I prefer the legends and coaches but a few current guys on there as well.
    Warning though its long form so 60-90 mins a pod.

    Enjoy the season

    TK

    looks like some nice material in the pipeline, thanks TK for contributing here bounce
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    Post by FaringdonSwirl Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:08 pm

    Always after more content to listen to so will likely end up posting summaries for the Talking League podcasts in here too. Will get one up for the halves from OTL tomorrow.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:28 pm

    Listened to the Terry Matterson Broncos preview. Some interesting stuff on from a fantasy perspective.

    Main takeaways are that "ideally the starting props get 50-60 minutes", that Riki is "very raw" which could translate to not quite ready, that Milf is a vital player and that McCullough still seems to be in plans.
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    Post by FaringdonSwirl Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:33 am

    @rhinoceroo wrote:Listened to the Terry Matterson Broncos preview. Some interesting stuff on from a fantasy perspective.

    Main takeaways are that "ideally the starting props get 50-60 minutes", that Riki is "very raw" which could translate to not quite ready, that Milf is a vital player and that McCullough still seems to be in plans.

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