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    NRL Fantasy 2021 Part 1 - Game on Mole

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    Post by robelgordo on Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:12 pm

    Middles and edges makes sense, now just need the commentators to start talking about positions the same way. I feel like most of them still refer to backrowers.

    Likely means less DPPs though. Which I think is good but should ideally mean a couple more trades (since squads are staying at 21

    Points for intercepts and strips good - Hodgson keeper with strips??? Points for losing possession tackles will be a minefield like try saves and some other scores.

    But it’s nice to see some improvements!
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    Post by Chewie on Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:26 pm

    Good to see some action on here!
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    Post by Aardvark on Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:40 pm

    Happy new year you hardcore fantasists!
    Just popped in to see the reaction to the position change, I think it will be good overall but depending on the number of DPP it could just see EDF (2RF) become the new FRF with everyone scrambling around for a fit 2RF at some point in the season given most of the premium 2RF were actually locks.


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    Post by Mighty Fishes on Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:45 pm

    @robelgordo wrote:Middles and edges makes sense, now just need the commentators to start talking about positions the same way. I feel like most of them still refer to backrowers.

    Likely means less DPPs though. Which I think is good but should ideally mean a couple more trades (since squads are staying at 21

    Points for intercepts and strips good - Hodgson keeper with strips??? Points for losing possession tackles will be a minefield like try saves and some other scores.

    But it’s nice to see some improvements!

    Didnt Munster have a whole lot of steals to? Is already a gun thats just a bonus
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    Post by StormTrooper96 on Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:02 pm

    @Mighty Fishes wrote:

    Didnt Munster have a whole lot of steals to? Is already a gun thats just a bonus

    Wouldn't mine me an origin Gagai for those intercept stats
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    Post by my tv broke on Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:18 pm

    Tohu Harris may be one of the higher owned players if he is an "edge" but plays in the middle again
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    Post by Blindside on Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:25 pm

    So far these changes sound pretty good, the only problem I see, the implementation from #FailHub
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    Post by Chewie on Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:46 pm

    @Camo123 wrote:The real question is what is the abbreviation for middle forwards going to be


    Lol
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    Post by FalconSloth on Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:04 pm

    Good to see some people starting to come back to the forum.

    Does anyone know when and how player prices are going to be released?
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    Post by StormTrooper96 on Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:57 pm

    @FalconSloth wrote:Good to see some people starting to come back to the forum.

    Does anyone know when and how player prices are going to be released?

    Well NRL.com says the app will be up and running after Australia Day so could be any day after.

    Last year they started releasing each teams fantasy guides on the 16th of January (1 team per day) and then moved to 2 teams per day on the 23rd of January with the last one (West Tigers) coming out on 27th of January... Looking back at last year the NRL app opened up on 28th of Jan... but because of the legends around here we were all playing on i think it was cows team picker (could have been MTB) as the players prices were released.
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    Post by White Lightning on Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:17 pm

    The new middle forward category means just pick no props & pick locks who play big mins or rotate during the game to the edge. Most locks play 55+ mins & most props 40-45 mins
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    Post by Milchcow on Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:23 pm

    @White Lightning wrote:The new middle forward category means just pick no props & pick locks who play big mins or rotate during the game to the edge. Most locks play 55+ mins & most props 40-45 mins


    That will be the plan for final teams, but salary cap is not going to let you get 3 big minute locks in your initial team

    As for 1on1 steals, I suspect they happen too rarely to base fantasy selections solely upon them. Maybe will be useful for players on the fringe of being undervalued.
    The forced turnover part of the stat is going to be like try saves. Everyone will just end up complaining about their players being dudded of them
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms on Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:40 pm

    Pretty much been covered already but agree that the stats changes are largely irrelevant as they are hard to plan for.

    Change to middle and edge is interesting. I feel like in initial squads for cash cows you are going to want guys that are middle eligible but play edge to lock in some consistent scores and price rises. Guys like Jacob Host/Jack Murchie. Later in the year as you want keepers it's probably about finding edge eligible players that you can choose at middle. Guys like Tohu Harris and Josh Jackson.

    Won't necessarily pick those guys but that is the kind of role I'll be looking for
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    Post by robelgordo on Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:46 pm

    FWIW based on last years PPG and designated positions the best pack was:

    2RF: McInnes, Crichton, Taumalolo
    FRF: Haas, Carrigan
    HOK: Cook

    If you shift to Middle and Edge positions it's:

    EDG: Crichton, Harris/Matterson
    MID: McInnes, Haas, Taumalolo
    HOK: Cook

    Carrigan, harris and Matterson all avg 60.2 ppl

    So it might not actually change much.
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    Post by robelgordo on Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:54 pm

    The top 15 2RFs last season by average

    Hooker/Middle: McInnes

    Middle: Lolo, Carrigan, Jurbo, Brown, Twal
    Middle who might've got DPP edge: Yeo

    Middle who is probably an edge in 2021: Murray

    Edge: Matterson, Bateman, Frizell, Fifita
    Edges who might've got DPP middle: Crichton, Harris, TPJ

    It's actually a pretty even split
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    Post by StormTrooper96 on Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:54 pm

    The change will pretty much means those locks who may have been on the edge of peoples selections that may only average around 48-53 and cost about 550-650K will be more valuable as middle forwards because they would probably average more than your next best prop that isn't Haas.
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    Post by Camo123 on Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:59 pm

    Allan officially signed with Dogs 

    I’m guessing Averillo plays 5/8 this year before JAC and Burton arrive in 2022 leaving backline as Allan, Meaney, Hopoate, Cotric, DWZ, Averillo, Flanagan
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    Post by Adrianoooo on Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:59 pm

    The turnover tackle looks an interesting one. I hope they don’t give those out like candy
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    Post by FalconSloth on Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:11 pm

    Honestly I don’t think that forced turnovers will be that hard to determine as if the attacking player drops it in contact it is normally pretty clear which defensive player caused it.
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco on Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:23 pm

    Welcome back everybody. As if this game wasn’t hard enough. With 25 rounds, and two bye rounds, how many trades do you think we need. I think a special dispensation needs to be given for centres after last year’s debacle. Good luck all.

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