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    Post by rhinoceroo on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:00 am

    @Mulvy wrote:

    My 37 for Mann may be a tad high, but 29 seems too low. Dylan Brown averaged 35 at 5/8 next to a dominant half with hardly any kick metres. Te Maire Martin averaged 34 at 5/8 with hardly any kick metres. Jack Cogger 34 at 5/8. CHT 36 at 5/8 although he got some more km's. I think an experienced player like Mann can get at least low to mid 30's no matter who their halves partner is.

    I can see Mann averaging 30-35. Making 100-150k. Problem is (unless you want to take a 30 score in your 17) he'll be taking a spot in your NPRs from someone who's base price that you want to make 200-300k.
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:01 am

    @Mulvy wrote:

    My 37 for Mann may be a tad high, but 29 seems too low. Dylan Brown averaged 35 at 5/8 next to a dominant half with hardly any kick metres. Te Maire Martin averaged 34 at 5/8 with hardly any kick metres. Jack Cogger 34 at 5/8. CHT 36 at 5/8 although he got some more km's. I think an experienced player like Mann can get at least low to mid 30's no matter who their halves partner is.

    My point est for Mann's predicted ave is 34, but my range is 30-38, if I drop that by one I have you both covered perfectly Smile
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:03 am

    @rhinoceroo wrote:

    I can see Mann averaging 30-35. Making 100-150k. Problem is (unless you want to take a 30 score in your 17) he'll be taking a spot in your NPRs from someone who's base price that you want to make 200-300k.

    As MS says, it depends on the balance of your side, but outside of Grant, Mann is the cheapest in my 17. I'd take 30 for a few weeks if I had to. Worst case, I'd then look to shift him into the NPRs until it made sense to case him out?
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    Post by my tv broke on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:05 am

    @Mulvy wrote:

    My 37 for Mann may be a tad high, but 29 seems too low. Dylan Brown averaged 35 at 5/8 next to a dominant half with hardly any kick metres. Te Maire Martin averaged 34 at 5/8 with hardly any kick metres. Jack Cogger 34 at 5/8. CHT 36 at 5/8 although he got some more km's. I think an experienced player like Mann can get at least low to mid 30's no matter who their halves partner is.

    very good points
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:08 am

    Not a whole lot of talk about Yeo. I dont know anything about him, but in 2017 averaged43 as starting 2RF, 2018 = 46 - but 2019 8 games for 31 ave, 35 if you drop out the low minute one. Priced at 38.

    Whats the story there? In a season where at this stage finding a potential keeper C at a discount is looking mighty tough... any love for Yeo?
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    Post by Milchcow on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:11 am

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    Agree, hence why some important analysis is required for plan Bs. If people's A-plan doesnt end up getting the starting spot they were hoping for, then they gotta make sure they've done the analysis to get the right plan B as often there's only a few days to make that call!

    Have you seen how many team iterations people have on this site? People are up to plan J or K already, and we haven't even had a single trial.

    The one thing that is not an issue for most people here is a lack of options for team selection.

    And if lack of options is an issue, its in finding CTR/WFB (maybe FRF as well) to play for min price, not in the second row.

    Nobody here is going to have issues building their team because they can't find a midrange 2RF to play in their starting 17
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    Post by Welshy on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:12 am

    Was going to start against the grain and go Big in back 3 to start and try get a jump in early rankings. Run Papy, Ponga and Brimsom/Isaako.Then Remembered last year everyone running CNK as a cheapy and I got burnt bad having the extra cash invested there (Edwards and Teddy)

    Just got them feels Ponga going LARGE against the warriors to open up
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:13 am

    @Milchcow wrote:

    Have you seen how many team iterations people have on this site? People are up to plan J or K already, and we haven't even had a single trial.

    The one thing that is not an issue for most people here is a lack of options for team selection.

    And if lack of options is an issue, its in finding CTR/WFB (maybe FRF as well) to play for min price, not in the second row.

    Nobody here is going to have issues building their team because they can't find a midrange 2RF to play in their starting 17

    yeah I know right!

    My point is that lack of  'options' is very different from lack of  'analysis' which reflects your concern of making the right choice.
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:16 am

    @Welshy wrote:Was going to start against the grain and go Big in back 3 to start and try get a jump in early rankings. Run Papy, Ponga and Brimsom/Isaako.Then Remembered last year everyone running CNK as a cheapy and I got burnt bad having the extra cash invested there (Edwards and Teddy)

    Just got them feels Ponga going LARGE against the warriors to open up

    I reckon that what you are suggesting wont be against the grain much at all man. I reckon the majority of serious teams will have 2 or three of the guys you just posted. That said, I suspect Ponga might be a sneaky POD.
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    Post by Milchcow on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:16 am

    @Rippin and Tearin wrote:Not a whole lot of talk about Yeo. I dont know anything about him,  but in 2017 averaged43 as starting 2RF, 2018 = 46 - but 2019 8 games for 31 ave, 35 if you drop out the low minute one. Priced at 38.

    Whats the story there? In a season where at this stage finding a potential keeper C at a discount is looking mighty tough... any love for Yeo?


    He is priced over his average from last year, and any low scoring games at centre are counterbalanced by a few high scoring games at lock, so I am not sure there is amazing value there anyway.
    His scores in 2019 are pretty underwhelming, although they were good in 2018

    He's currently at CTR in my Sportsdeck team, but haven't found room for him in Fantasy yet.

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    Post by my tv broke on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:18 am

    @Rippin and Tearin wrote:Not a whole lot of talk about Yeo. I dont know anything about him,  but in 2017 averaged43 as starting 2RF, 2018 = 46 - but 2019 8 games for 31 ave, 35 if you drop out the low minute one. Priced at 38.

    Whats the story there? In a season where at this stage finding a potential keeper C at a discount is looking mighty tough... any love for Yeo?

    Sneaking suspicion that Yeo goes into the middle rotation. He played a bit of lock/bench middle at the end of last season.

    I read somewhere that Capewell was on the radio the other day and mentioned something along the lines of he and kikau being the edges.

    Other than that I have no real basis for the theory, so its a wait and see.
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:19 am

    @Milchcow wrote:


    He is priced over his average from last year, and any low scoring games at centre are counterbalanced by a few high scoring games at lock, so I am not sure there is amazing value there anyway.
    His scores in 2019 are pretty underwhelming, although they were good in 2018

    He's currently at CTR in my Sportsdeck team, but haven't found room for him in Fantasy yet.


    Yup me too, although if I could be convinced last year was the outlier and the norm is what he produced in '17 and 18' it would be very hard to go past him.
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    Post by Welshy on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:20 am

    @Rippin and Tearin wrote:

    I reckon that what you are suggesting wont be against the grain much at all man. I reckon the majority of serious teams will have 2 or three of the guys you just posted. That said, I suspect Ponga might be a sneaky POD.
    against the grain in terms of running that other higher priced WFB Ponga with Papy with one of the much picked Isaako/Brimson whilst vast majority here especially look to be heading for a Papy/Isaako/Brimson back 3. Early season in WFB all comes down to early scoring form, think we all back P/I/B to above current priced average over season
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:23 am

    @Welshy wrote:
    against the grain in terms of running that other higher priced WFB Ponga with Papy with one of the much picked Isaako/Brimson whilst vast majority here especially look to be heading for a Papy/Isaako/Brimson back 3. Early season in WFB all comes down to early scoring form, think we all back P/I/B to above current priced average over season

    Yeah, probably right! I think he's a decent option, arguably a keeper thats undervalued.
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    Post by Welshy on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:26 am

    @Rippin and Tearin wrote:

    Yeah, probably right! I think he's a decent option, arguably a keeper thats undervalued.
    Would need a lower priced FR like Knight/Fotu/Carrigan to elevate ala Fonua Blake/Twal to keep my team strong ish all over the park mind to run it and not convinced
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    Post by Welshy on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:28 am

    Do we think the angry ranga Horsburgh can be in that elevation grouping or too much competition in that Raiders pack for enough minutes
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    Post by rhinoceroo on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:46 am

    @Welshy wrote:Do we think the angry ranga Horsburgh can be in that elevation grouping or too much competition in that Raiders pack for enough minutes

    Probably same as last year. That kid's got a few suspensions in him as well.
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    Post by Cookie Monster on Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:50 am

    Not as many as Hudson Young though
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    Post by mattnz on Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:18 am

    @Welshy wrote:Do we think the angry ranga Horsburgh can be in that elevation grouping or too much competition in that Raiders pack for enough minutes

    raiders were normally running a 4 middles bench. Watch to see if that changes. I can see him becoming a key player for them in coming years but not with the current roster
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    Post by my tv broke on Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:19 am

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    Sneaking suspicion that Yeo goes into the middle rotation. He played a bit of lock/bench middle at the end of last season.

    I read somewhere that Capewell was on the radio the other day and mentioned something along the lines of he and kikau being the edges.

    Other than that I have no real basis for the theory, so its a wait and see.

    More on this, these quotes from the other day on a sportingnews article, I think its looking pretty promising for Capewell to start on one edge at the Panthers. Lock him in as one of my starting centres I think:-

    "For me to leave Cronulla was a big decision but it's something that had to happen. I was lucky enough that Ivan gave me a call and Trent Barrett gave me a call. It's been a really good fit for me so far so I'm stoked with the decision."

    Capewell played out the full 80 minutes at second-row on 16 occasions for the Sharks last season, a trait of his game he takes pride in.

    He said that was a deciding factor in his decision to move to Penrith, with Ivan Cleary eager to use Capewell's versatility on the edge.

    "Big in my decision to come to the club is Ivan sees me as a backrower," Capewell revealed.

    "Which for me is really good, because I enjoy playing in the back row and playing 80 minutes.

    "I'm more than happy to play other positions, whatever benefits the team, but knowing Ivan sees me as a back row gave me great confidence, so hopefully I'm nailing that down."

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