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    Post by StormTrooper96 on Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:07 pm

    @White Lightning wrote:I have no idea whether or not Arrow will get an early release & play for Souths this year but the recent trend is the player usually gets what he wants it seems so I'm leaning towards him playing for Souths in 2021 2020. However he seems a loyal kind of person so he may honour the deal & go to Souths in 2021.
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    Post by standard-issue on Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:33 pm

    @StormTrooper96 wrote:
    SI wrote:

    Make sure you put some time aside to come see us then in Brisbane mate Smile

    Who knows might even be sitting near ya. How many of the NRLFF are going to Magic Round?

    Nothing officially organised, will wait till everyone is back in Feb. But there’s been a bit of interest mentioned over the last 6 months for a Brissy meet up.
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    Post by my tv broke on Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:02 pm

    @White Lightning wrote:I have no idea whether or not Arrow will get an early release & play for Souths this year but the recent trend is the player usually gets what he wants it seems so I'm leaning towards him playing for Souths in 2021. However he seems a loyal kind of person so he may honour the deal & go to Souths in 2021.

    I think he was quoted yesterday saying its now up to the club.

    IMO it seems like a matter of time before the details of an early release are sorted out.

    I suspect the Titans are just trying to secure another signing (or get Tino released early?) before saying "ok you can go now" to Arrow.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 on Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:03 pm

    @my tv broke wrote:

    I think he was quoted yesterday saying its now up to the club.

    IMO it seems like a matter of time before the details of an early release are sorted out.

    I suspect the Titans are just trying to secure another signing (or get Tino released early?) before saying "ok you can go now" to Arrow.

    Well apparently they could get Asiata early if Arrow were to leave
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    Post by Chewie on Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:01 pm

    @Cookie Monster wrote:


    Bloody hell @Chewie

    That all sounds like a bunch of Wookiee gibberish to me Wink

    @castlecrag sweethearts wrote:

    From a wookie's perspective, Chewbacca is the handsome rogue and Han is the dumb sidekick communicating in animal noises.

    Finally getting some recognition...

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    Post by Chewie on Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:07 pm

    @Iron Mike wrote:Carrying on from the Hooker chat last thread it looks like a continuation of this stategy could be viable again this year. 1 of Cook, Smith and McInnes (my preference is in that order to start season) along with Brailey and Mybe/Korisau/Robson/Manly Hooker could all be viable to start season.

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    That is my current plan (without having done any actual planning beyond a few vague thoughts)

    One possibility is that Mbye will be Tigers starting hooker, and selectable at CTR in fantasy. It would make him like Nikora last year where everyone has him, but helps with team picking

    Yeah, I'm leaning towards Booze's strategy for 2020, just to keep things interesting.
    I'm also considering using only a maximum of 1 trade per round (bar long-term injuries) at least until bye planning kicks in (round 9)
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    Post by mattnz on Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:51 am

    @Chewie wrote:



    Yeah, I'm leaning towards Booze's strategy for 2020, just to keep things interesting.
    I'm also considering using only a maximum of 1 trade per round (bar long-term injuries) at least until bye planning kicks in (round 9)

    Unless you get really lucky with a great start, those early trades are essential to catch the bolters that you missed and drop those that arent performing as hoped.
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    Post by robelgordo on Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:33 am

    @StormTrooper96 wrote:Manly coach Des Hasler is considering taking a daring gamble on boom teenager Josh Schuster in the opening round of the 2020 season.

    There is no doubt that Schuster is destined for stardom - but most expected him to have to wait at least most of next season to make his top grade debut.

    But word out of Brookvale is that the 18-year-old nephew of former Knights cult hero John Schuster is a big chance of filling the key five-eighth position.

    That would enable the versatile Dylan Walker, who has had his problems at No.6, to move to his preferred position in the centres.

    Much will depend on how Schuster, who starred for NSW under-18s last year, performs in the trials.

    Hasler isn't afraid to throw young players into the fray if they are good enough - and Schuster certainly falls into that category.

    WARNING - source from the MOLE!!

    Schuster is currently in the dev squad and Manly already have 29/30 positions filled in their main squad. You would think they need a hooker for #30. I guess it’s possible they want to play Walker in the centres and Schuster also gets ahead of Croker/Cust and Manly make the cap space, but seems more likely an 18 year old gets a run in NSW Cup until at least 30 June.
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    Post by Enchanted Glossy Flamingo on Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:39 am

    @Chewie wrote:I'm also considering using only a maximum of 1 trade per round (bar long-term injuries) at least until bye planning kicks in (round 9)

    The two strategies I had going into last year that I felt worked out for me were filling my team with filthy midrangers with an eye for value during my startup and spending all my early trades like the world was ending. If someone was an injury red dot I traded them out. The bench is too short now to be holding players early on, even if its just for two weeks, and it cripples your cash generation. I brought Burns in only for him to get hurt the next week and I traded his ass out straight away for dylan brown, who actually made money.
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    Post by my tv broke on Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:08 am

    Ideally, you'd pick the perfect 21 players and you would have no need to trade for the first 6 weeks.

    There are trades you've got to make early, to grab any guys you missed who are making bulk cash. Obviously injuries as well.

    There are trades you shouldn't make early as well. Some fell into the trap last year of trading out keepers who started quietly, I remember people bailed on guys like Mahoney pretty quickly, etc (but at the same time someone has to fund trades). It's a long season, we fall into the trap of thinking a week at a time a lot. Some times you've just got to stick to your guns and remember why you bought someone originally (obviously every situation is different, if a guy isn't getting the role you thought, etc)..
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    Post by StormTrooper96 on Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:43 am

    @my tv broke wrote:Ideally, you'd pick the perfect 21 players and you would have no need to trade for the first 6 weeks.

    There are trades you've got to make early, to grab any guys you missed who are making bulk cash. Obviously injuries as well.

    There are trades you shouldn't make early as well. Some fell into the trap last year of trading out keepers who started quietly, I remember people bailed on guys like Mahoney pretty quickly, etc (but at the same time someone has to fund trades). It's a long season, we fall into the trap of thinking a week at a time a lot. Some times you've just got to stick to your guns and remember why you bought someone originally (obviously every situation is different, if a guy isn't getting the role you thought, etc)..

    Same case goes for some cash cows. I remember last year players like Ravalawa and Garrick had shit first or second rounds but then went gangbusters the next few. I remember I sold Garrick off a single digit score, then went on some mad run. So just because your cow doesn't go big in the first round doesn't mean they won't in the second. Obviously, if someone like Haas pops up who seems to be playing 40+ minutes, a part of the main offence, and look hungry you jump on that shit straight away. I fell in the trap last year of holding onto my red dots for WAYYYY too long and for dumping any cows/middies off of 1 bad score. Essentially this hindered my money making around the middle rounds and my trades left towards the end. I think it is best to stick to the old rule. If an injury is more than 2 weeks it's probably good to let them go, as their BE will most likely be pretty high when they come back so they will drop cash before you can pick them up again. Unless it is someone like Cook, Haas, Bateman who you probably don't want to sell ever!.

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    Post by StormTrooper96 on Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:47 am

    At least Failhub have included last years rankings and stat centre in case you wanna go back and have a look at how badly you sucked.
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    Post by Chewie on Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:43 am

    @StormTrooper96 wrote:

    Same case goes for some cash cows. I remember last year players like Ravalawa and Garrick had shit first or second rounds but then went gangbusters the next few. I remember I sold Garrick off a single digit score, then went on some mad run. So just because your cow doesn't go big in the first round doesn't mean they won't in the second. Obviously, if someone like Haas pops up who seems to be playing 40+ minutes, a part of the main offence, and look hungry you jump on that shit straight away. I fell in the trap last year of holding onto my red dots for WAYYYY too long and for dumping any cows/middies off of 1 bad score. Essentially this hindered my money making around the middle rounds and my trades left towards the end. I think it is best to stick to the old rule. If an injury is more than 2 weeks it's probably good to let them go, as their BE will most likely be pretty high when they come back so they will drop cash before you can pick them up again. Unless it is someone like Cook, Haas, Bateman who you probably don't want to sell ever!.

    TL;DR - This Storm Trooper knows nothing about Fantasy.

    I feel that I was way to trigger happy with my early trades last year. That's why I'm considering putting the limit on.
    Maybe I should go with doing a double trade in round 1 and 2 to fix early dud picks and then revert to the limit of 1 trade?
    In any case I plan to conserve trades and play the long game. This won't be easy for a tradaholic like myself Embarassed
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    Post by No Worries on Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:46 am

    @Chewie wrote:



    Finally getting some recognition...

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    Post by StormTrooper96 on Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:51 pm

    @Chewie wrote:

    I feel that I was way to trigger happy with my early trades last year. That's why I'm considering putting the limit on.
    Maybe I should go with doing a double trade in round 1 and 2 to fix early dud picks and then revert to the limit of 1 trade?
    In any case I plan to conserve trades and play the long game. This won't be easy for a tradaholic like myself Embarassed

    I think my plan is to max trade the first couple rounds to pick up any cows I miss and then limit my trades to injury length, under performing over multiple rounds and then look at bye planning around R8
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    Post by mattnz on Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:21 pm

    There can be severe anguish from holding a non-performer too long, like Edwards and Holland last season, worth trading them early rather than too late
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    Post by RandomSil on Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:27 pm

    @mattnz wrote:There can be severe anguish from holding a non-performer too long, like Edwards and Holland last season, worth trading them early rather than too late

    Yes and no, it is always a flip of the coin. You need to offload anyone bleeding cash massively, particularly those who are in your starting 17 as the above examples. However there are examples of Cashcow's who get dropped early, I remember I offloaded Sivo before he had some stellar performances after that and I regretted trading him out due to how well he was scoring.

    But I do believe you have to max trade the first 3 weeks. It is so unlikely you hit on your 21 picks, and you want to get on any potential cashcows that are going huge early. If you only 1 trade those weeks, you essentially put yourself behind by 3 decent picks. As everyone jumps on guys making a bucketload of cash.
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    Post by FalconSloth on Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:11 pm

    Does anyone have any idea when nrl fantasy opens for 2020
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    Post by StormTrooper96 on Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:51 pm

    @FalconSloth wrote:Does anyone have any idea when nrl fantasy opens for 2020
    Normally around Aus day so should be very close. I wonder if there will be anything different i.e layout, structure, theme.
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    Post by Chewie on Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:51 pm

    Random wrote:

    Yes and no, it is always a flip of the coin. You need to offload anyone bleeding cash massively, particularly those who are in your starting 17 as the above examples. However there are examples of Cashcow's who get dropped early, I remember I offloaded Sivo before he had some stellar performances after that and I regretted trading him out due to how well he was scoring.

    But I do believe you have to max trade the first 3 weeks. It is so unlikely you hit on your 21 picks, and you want to get on any potential cashcows that are going huge early. If you only 1 trade those weeks, you essentially put yourself behind by 3 decent picks. As everyone jumps on guys making a bucketload of cash.

    I was tempted to get Sivo, but I dismissed it as my Parra bias, he was one of the ones that got away Crying or Very sad

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