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    NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

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    Rippin and Tearin

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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by Rippin and Tearin on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:26 am

    @Cap'n Ranta wrote:Dumb thought starter before TLT but how do people feel about Thurston "if" Morgan goes to FB with TeMaire or someone similar in the halves.

    For only 515k he offers a rd13 potential cash cow with 40ish point scores (hopefully goes back to the old Thurston and goes borderline keeper 45~ levels again)

    Would surely become the dominant playmaker and is another stepping stone like Maloney.

    Thoughts?

    He's definitely on my radar mate. I've got DCE pencilled in this week to trade in but if JT is named alongside TMM I don't think he scores 20 less than DCE on average (which is what you'd be paying up for). Add to that, like you say, the potential to make some cash on JT then upgrade to SJ or Clearly then it seems like a good, albeit risky option given JTs scoring this year so far.....

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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by No Worries on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:27 am

    @my tv broke wrote:Lonescout just tweeted that eels tigers updates havent been applied yet and will be soon. Any trades made this morning will get reversed. Fkn lol

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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by Rippin and Tearin on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:27 am

    @my tv broke wrote:Lonescout just tweeted that eels tigers updates havent been applied yet and will be soon. Any trades made this morning will get reversed. Fkn lol

    Has anyone tweeted him back saying other games haven't been updated either?

    These guys are a fucken shit show aren't they.
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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by White Lightning on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:29 am

    So after the updates do the players new prices/be's change.
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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by No Worries on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:29 am

    @Cap'n Ranta wrote:Dumb thought starter before TLT but how do people feel about Thurston "if" Morgan goes to FB with TeMaire or someone similar in the halves.

    For only 515k he offers a rd13 potential cash cow with 40ish point scores (hopefully goes back to the old Thurston and goes borderline keeper 45~ levels again)

    Would surely become the dominant playmaker and is another stepping stone like Maloney.

    Thoughts?

    As long as the NRL continue to manipulate results then JT should definitely have a good few weeks ahead of him
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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by Loomer on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:31 am

    @Rippin and Tearin wrote:

    Im not sure what you mean by that. I would have thought those two scores, given there contexts, would if anything push you in favour of Harris over Taupau.

    E.g. take out Harris' 8 and he averages more than Taupau for less money. Take Taupau's increased minutes due to injury into account in that last game and you favour Harris even more.


    Taupau BE 15 and Harris 72. Taupau BE should be lower next week. Not sure what you're on about. $$ swing next few weeks should be huge
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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by Rapture_NRL on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:33 am

    Tohu is the most consistent scorer outside of Cook excluding the 8 from injury. Don't trade keepers. You'll be giving up 50+ scores based on averages but it doesn't matter because long term Tohu will average higher than Taupau. I'd only sell Tohu (at a stretch) if he had >50% ownership and Taupau had <10%. But, that's not to say Taupau shouldn't be in your team. Just don't sacrifice Tohu to do it.

    If you look at the BEs of both, you could make a quick cash grab but it's not worth the trades. Tohu has shown he is a keeper. Where are the ex-Smith owners at?


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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by WT2K on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:34 am

    There was a stats file processing issue with the Eels-Tigers Fantasy scores folks - scores are still to be updated and any trades done this morning will be reversed.
    A few more points to come for Corey Thompson, a few less for Esan Marsters.
    https://twitter.com/lone_scout/status/990747204347297792?s=19
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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by my tv broke on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:37 am

    Macca is training at hooker right now for the broncos. As usual, super speedy recovery from him. Guess youd be annoyed if you traded him though.
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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by Rippin and Tearin on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:45 am

    @Loomer wrote:

    Taupau BE 15 and Harris 72. Taupau BE should be lower next week. Not sure what you're on about. $$ swing next few weeks should be huge

    I assumed you considered them both keepers? If you are making the trade purely for a cash grab I don't see that being a sensible option (have you run the numbers?).

    Taupau will increase in value by ~80k averaging 55 per 4 weeks then peak.
    Harris will lose ~10k in that same amount of time.

    Thats net ~90k. Thats considerably under what I would hope to get on a trade for cash!

    Easily better options out there which don't involve trading out a keeper...
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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by Rapture_NRL on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:49 am

    Some quick Maths for the Tohu to Taupau trade:

    Tohu was averaging 55 without the 8 point game
    Taupau was averaging 41 without the 104

    For arguments sake, we'll say at that PPM, Taupau bumps up to 50 minutes for 50-55 points per game

    Over 3 games:
    Harris loses $14k
    Taupau gains $70-100k

    Now even if Tohu isn't in your final 18, your trade only nets $110k at the somewhat optimistic end.

    That aside, Taupau is definitely a look in for my second Prop spot, but I'll wait till I've finished milking my cows.
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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by Cap'n Ranta on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:51 am

    @my tv broke wrote:Macca is training at hooker right now for the broncos. As usual, super speedy recovery from him. Guess youd be annoyed if you traded him though.

    Geez if this is true I'll be mighty upset(traded last week) and happy (as a broncs fan).

    On 2nd thought though:

    - Macca is only a gun if he's an 80 minute player. 60 minutes shows him sub 50 points
    - Last two weeks haven't been great (36 and tracking sub 50 before injury)
    - He has a high BE - 83
    - Kahu should be back soon and Bird has been playing in the halves
    - Pushes Niko to a bench utility and is playing well at hooker (limited minutes/sample size)

    Probably would be a harder decision to make this week. Can play wait and see with the goal to pick him up in rd 14 if he's going well at a more tempting price.

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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by NewyCoop on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:56 am

    @Rippin and Tearin wrote:

    That all depends on Peats return date though. Have we had an update on that? Last I saw we were all assuming, but didn't know for sure, that Peats would be back early.

    But:

    If Rein gets 3 more starts (at 50) he'd make ~170k from here - easily worth the trade. Factor in those 50 scores in your 17 at a massively discounted price and its a no brainer IMO.

    If he got 2 more starts (at 50) + 1 bench start for 25 he'd make ~140k and again you gotta factor in those two starting scores into your 17 - still a no brainer IMO.

    Even absolutely worst case scenario and he only gets 1 more start it's looking like he would still make ~$100k after 2 more weeks. Still worth considering IMO.

    My point is that while it must seem like you've missed the boat on him I wouldn't rule him out of consideration just yet.



    Thanks, you might have convinced me to take the risk. Can't see Thompson making too much more cash so I'll use the trade to keep things rolling. Mainly a H2H player so the bye rounds don't bother me too much trading Thompson out.
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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by Rapture_NRL on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:59 am

    @Cap'n Ranta Tbh it's so difficult to see what Bennett does because Nikorima is much stronger at hooker but I see Macca moving to Lock during the game while McGuire is out. But I hope Macca is eased back in so he drops another $50k Smile

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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by Bullbender on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:59 am

    @WT2K wrote:There was a stats file processing issue with the Eels-Tigers Fantasy scores folks - scores are still to be updated and any trades done this morning will be reversed.
    A few more points to come for Corey Thompson, a few less for Esan Marsters.
    https://twitter.com/lone_scout/status/990747204347297792?s=19
    Not rocket science, dont lift lockout till its resolved. These guys just keep getting worse, similar to Bryce Cartwright really
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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by Rippin and Tearin on Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:01 am

    @NewyCoop wrote:

    Thanks, you might have convinced me to take the risk. Can't see Thompson making too much more cash so I'll use the trade to keep things rolling. Mainly a H2H player so the bye rounds don't bother me too much trading Thompson out.

    If it were me I want an update on Peats before I traded him in. That might come this week. In the absence of that it would be a gamble but perhaps a calculated one. Good luck.
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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog on Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:06 am

    I can't get Rein this week. Would be sure as soon as it's locked in Peats returns or Rein gets injured haha
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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by Rippin and Tearin on Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:13 am

    @Rapture_NRL wrote:@Cap'n Ranta Tbh it's so difficult to see what Bennett does because Nikorima is much stronger at hooker but I see Macca moving to Lock during the game while McGuire is out. But I hope Macca is eased back in so he drops another $50k Smile

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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog on Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:18 am

    My concern is why so many players were warned off him!

    Oh well, win some lose some


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    Re: NRL Fantasy 2018 Thread Part 37

    Post by Loomer on Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:20 am

    @Rapture_NRL wrote:Some quick Maths for the Tohu to Taupau trade:

    Tohu was averaging 55 without the 8 point game
    Taupau was averaging 41 without the 104

    For arguments sake, we'll say at that PPM, Taupau bumps up to 50 minutes for 50-55 points per game

    Over 3 games:
    Harris loses $14k
    Taupau gains $70-100k

    Now even if Tohu isn't in your final 18, your trade only nets $110k at the somewhat optimistic end.

    That aside, Taupau is definitely a look in for my second Prop spot, but I'll wait till I've finished milking my cows.

    I can do Kennar>Taupau even if he is back in 2 weeks. Some non 13 players are going to have to make way for rd 13 players. It makes the most sense to lose Tohu ahead of JFH Kikau RFM and pick him up for 17 later. That's my thinking anyway

    Got Tohu last season the game he got injured for 25pts then he shat the bed the next 3. That was injury not concussion but 55 avg next 3 is absolute best case scenario whereas another dud score and he's bleeding cash

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