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    Dip

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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Dip on Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:29 pm

    @Pieman wrote:

    Been saying that for years. Totally agree. I think he would have been excellent in this role. Might be too late for it now, but he 100% can not be the starting halfback. I would nearly even pick him as the starting hooker to offer the side a kicking game/bit of attack out of dummy half.

    There is no doubt that Pearce has been a scape goat to some extent, and there is also no doubt that at origin time he was by far the in form halfback and the only realistic option to be picked. Having said that, you just can't pick him at 7 again given what happened in game 2 & 3 (and to some extent given that NSW only really pulled away in game 1 after he went off HIA) and the alternative that will be available. Barring injury, Cleary is the logical next halfback, and while he'll still only be very young at 20, he'll have played basically 50 games by then, which players usually don't achieve until they're 22 or 23, so I don't think you can use the too young argument. He also plays as if he's a lot older than he is. By that, I mean that if he never improves any more than what he is now, he'll still be a very good halfback for the next decade, and isn't like say Mullen or Pearce, who were picked on potential but not really origin standard when they were picked before their time.

    By the same token, I don't think there is any NSW hooker who is an 80 minute hooker and has an attacking game to go with it. Peats, Korisau can be attacking players, but not if they play 80. While they can handle 80 defensively, have them play 50-60, and they'll bring a better running game to the table, then have a 20-30 minute hooker who can really apply the pressure when they're on. Pearce could most certainly do that role running occassionally from dummy half, and not being the chief playmaker calling the shots. If Cleary is injured Adam Reynolds can fill that role.

    NSW try to copy what we've done with Smith, and that is just a losing cause. Farah is the easily the second best hooker of the last decade IMO, and when he was young enough to try and play like Smith NSW had a shit team, and when they finally had a good team he was no longer young enough to play that role and was instead a defensive 80 minute player like Peats was this year. Gee I even hope we don't try to emulate Smith when he retires. If he decided to hang up the boots tomorrow, then I'd hope we'd pick a Friend/McCullough type starter, with a Glanville/Segeyaro type hooker on the bench.
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Pain on Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:00 pm

    People forget where the Qld Team was when Mal took over. There was much debate in state whether Locky was up to origin. I question whether the 3 so called immortals would be such without their origin success.

    Its not a simple as saying qld had the best players. The environment was there for them to be motivated to be the best they could be.
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Moose on Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:03 pm

    NSW might have Cleary but QLD have Cooper Cronks clone in Croft. The only position that NSW have the advantage is in the forwards.

    Oh yeah, Freddy will be NSW Coach next year. Put your house on it.
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by dasherhalo on Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:07 pm

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    Whilst there is a distinct career downside should said coach lose, there is a definable boost in employability should the coach jag a positive result.

    Job security is excellent - failure to reach KPI's shall not be considered until the 5th year.

    Conditions: not bad. work 3 months work per year, with several media commitments post-season.



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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Pain on Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:36 pm

    @Moose wrote:NSW might have Cleary but QLD have Cooper Cronks clone in Croft. The only position that NSW have the advantage is in the forwards.

    Oh yeah, Freddy will be NSW Coach next year. Put your house on it.

    I hope he is. Freddy and Joey will be a trainwreck.
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by No Worries on Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:41 pm

    And the worst kept secret in rugby league is officially announced.
    Brad Fittler signed on a 2 year deal to coach the Blues.

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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by leaguegod on Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:23 pm

    i'm pretty happy with the appointment personally


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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Pieman on Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:57 pm

    Yeah me too, best option IMO.

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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Ice on Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:15 am

    Possible team based on Fittlers latest comments:

    1. Tedesco
    2. Addo-Carr
    3. Mitchell
    4. Bird
    5. Trbojevic
    6. Maloney
    7. Cleary
    8. Woods
    9. Peats/ApiK
    10. Klemmer
    11. Cordner
    12. Jackson
    13. JTrbojevic

    14. Peachey
    15. RCG
    16. Maclean
    17. Frizell

    I don't mind that side at all. JAC or Mansour, I could take either. I like Peachey in the 14. Think he'd offer that run from dummy half to spell Peats, but could slot into the backrow or backline no dramas at all.

    I still wouldn't mind finding a spot for Crighton or Brown, but for whom? Personally it would be for Jackson, but it's unlikely I'd say, maybe Frizell.
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Pieman on Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:33 am

    NSW Emerging squad named.

    Payne Haas (Brisbane Broncos)
    Tevita Pengai Jr. (Brisbane Broncos)
    Michael Lichaa (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs)
    Nick Cotric (Canberra Raiders)
    Jayden Brailey (Cronulla Sharks)
    Kyle Flanagan (Cronulla Sharks)
    Jessie Ramien (Cronulla Sharks)
    Lachlan Croker (Manly Warringah Sea Eagles)
    Jack Gosiewski (Manly Warringah Sea Eagles)
    Brian Kelly (Manly Warringah Sea Eagles)
    Luke Metcalf (Manly Warringah Sea Eagles)
    Curtis Scott (Melbourne Storm)
    Brock Lamb (Newcastle Knights)
    Daniel Saifiti (Newcastle Knights)
    Connor Watson (Newcastle Knights)
    Nathan Cleary (Penrith Panthers)
    Dylan Edwards (Penrith Panthers)
    Moses Leota (Penrith Panthers)
    Bevan French (Parramatta Eels)
    Tepai Moeroa (Parramatta Eels)
    Mitchell Moses (Parramatta Eels)
    Kyle Schneider (Parramatta Eels)
    Jake Hazard (Sydney Roosters)
    Latrell Mitchell (Sydney Roosters)
    Victor Radley (Sydney Roosters)
    Angus Crichton (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
    Tyrell Fuimaono (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
    Campbell Graham (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
    Cameron Murray (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
    Matt Dufty (St George Illawarra Dragons)
    Jai Field (St George Illawarra Dragons)
    Zac Lomax (St George Illawarra Dragons)
    Reece Robson (St George Illawarra Dragons)
    Hame Sele (St George Illawarra Dragons)
    Jacob Liddle (Wests Tigers)
    Bayley Sironen (Wests Tigers)
    Moses Suli (Wests Tigers)
    Alex Twal (Wests Tigers)

    Quite a bit of first grade experience there. Some very very good young players.

    A Johns, Fitzgibbon, King, Omeeley, Buderus will have specialist coaching roles.

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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Ice on Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:37 am

    No Nathan Brown! Poo squad!
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Pieman on Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:00 am

    is there an age limit for the emerging squad?
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Shanbon on Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:08 am

    There’s also quiet a few nuffties in there who won’t go to far

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