NSW Origin side 2018

Ice wrote:

You're having a laugh! Jayne single handedly wonNSW the 2014 Origin and took Parra to the GF and has ALWAYs, prior to leaving for NFL, had to carry his side and won 2 Dally Ms and two Brad Fittler medals and a WC best player award in the process.  Yes HAS lifted those around him, he constantly has team mates and coaches (Henry aside) crediting him for lifting team moral and spirits, contrary to what the media would have you believe, you never hear that about Dugan.  He has plenty of faults,  no doubt, but they are not the same, and I'm not advocating Haynes selection in Origin.  

Ice, you should have heeded your Mum's warnings......as I'm afraid you've clearly been blinded by too much masturbating about JHayne.

Let me kindly point out the immense similarities with what you mentioned and your lover boy:

Benefited from playing in a shit hot Aussie team - tick.
Cock head - tick.
Culture issues - tick.
Contributed to the poor NSW culture - tick.
Played well personally (at times) but doesn't lift other around him - tick.
No contribution to any positive vibes - tick.
Always about Jarry Hayne to Jarryd Hayne - super tick.

Oz Sport Mad wrote:

Ice, you should have heeded your Mum's warnings......as I'm afraid you've clearly been blinded by too much masturbating about JHayne.

Let me kindly point out the immense similarities with what you mentioned and your lover boy:

Benefited from playing in a shit hot Aussie team - tick.
Cock head - tick.
Culture issues - tick.
Contributed to the poor NSW culture - tick.
Played well personally (at times) but doesn't lift other around him - tick.
No contribution to any positive vibes - tick.
Always about Jarry Hayne to Jarryd Hayne - super tick.

Rightio, seems about right.

How smart is Gould the slimy cunt.
Hasnt had a thing to do with origin for 15 years, as soon as Smith, Cronk, Thurston retire - Boom - back on the coaching staff

code delta wrote:Reassess your teams.
Or is Gus a wanker?

http://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/state-of-origin-gus-gould-freddy-fittler-/1h6b8g1vxjr9l1b4c7j71o8b5l

To be honest, I'd be more than comfortable with this approach, I've never been sold on Boyd Cordner being our leader long term or even a certain selection, so what might that type of team look like, a team with ALL debutants:

1. TTurbo
2. Cotric
3. Mitchell
4. Roberts/Scott
5. JAC
6. Keary/Green
7. Cleary (c)
8. RCG
9. Cook/McInness
10. Vaughan
11. Crichton
12. De Belin
13. Finnucane

14. McInness/Cook/Peachey
15. Sims
16. James/Boyd/Paulo/Haas
17. Who else?

The team would have absolutely no right to win this year, but keep them together, or the core together, and who knows, but if he goes this way, he at least buys himself a few series given nobody would expect a win but they might see the potential. If he just bloods a few and sticks with the losers that have come before, then what does that achieve? I actually really like the idea.

Bring it on Freddy!

Pieman wrote:How smart is Gould the slimy cunt.
Hasnt had a thing to do with origin for 15 years, as soon as Smith, Cronk, Thurston retire - Boom - back on the coaching staff

Yep, about as smart as Mal

as if they wouldnt pick JTrbo, tedesco or friz.
blooding an entirely new side is fucking stupid just for the sake of picking new guys IMO.

Honestly - a side with debutants:
TTrbo, Mitchell, JAC, Cleary, JDB, Vaughn, RCG, Cook and or Mcinnes and or peachy, possibly crichton and or sims, possibly aitken - is more than enough players to change a culture.

Tedesco has never played a bad game for NSW, JTrbo has played like what? 3 games for nsw? friz is always one of if not NSW best forward too. IMO, JTrbo is picked and is the captain. Klemmer dropped? fuck off.. hes brilliant in origin

Im all for dropping dead weight like Woods, dugan, fergo, peats, even possibly cordner (who is horribly out of form but has never played badly for nsw) but fuck me, starting over 100% is redic IMO

What happens if they run with that theory and lose again? Do they all get dropped next year for another lot of debutants?

Ice wrote:

Yep, about as smart as Mal

You spelt Michael Hagan wrong

Pieman wrote:as if they wouldnt pick JTrbo, tedesco or friz.
blooding an entirely new side is fucking stupid just for the sake of picking new guys IMO.

Honestly - a side with debutants:
TTrbo, Mitchell, JAC, Cleary, JDB, Vaughn, RCG, Cook and or Mcinnes and or peachy, possibly crichton and or sims, possibly aitken - is more than enough players to change a culture.

Tedesco has never played a bad game for NSW, JTrbo has played like what? 3 games for nsw? friz is always one of if not NSW best forward too. IMO, JTrbo is picked and is the captain. Klemmer dropped? fuck off.. hes brilliant in origin

Im all for dropping dead weight like Woods, dugan, fergo, peats, even possibly cordner (who is horribly out of form but has never played badly for nsw) but fuck me, starting over 100% is redic IMO

No stupider than picking the same people and expecting a different result.

That said, I agree, if I was keeping some, it would be JTurbo as skipper, Tedesco, Frizell and Klemmer.

I'd probably go:

Tedesco
TTurbo
Mitchell
Aiken
JAC/Cotric
Green
Cleary
RCG
Cook
Vaughan
Crichton
Frizell
JTurbo

Peachey
Klemmer
De Belin
Finnucane/McClean in fit

cordner hasn't set the world on fire this year but before last week either had crighton and what now suddenly he jumps our captain who was damn good last series ? fuck that, cordner will be there and rightly so

incumbents who should 100% keep their spot imo

teddy, cordner, maloney, klem, Jtrbo & friz


i think the only 2 who have any shot apart form those are probably duges (if fit) and fergo but they wouldn't be in my 17.

I wouldn't say he was damned good, I'd say it could be argued he was one of the better performed of a group who have had plenty of chances.

I'd honestly not have any issues if he was not selected. Saying Cordner should hold his spot cause he is skipper and was one of the better performed is the same argument that saw Gallen continue to get a run.

I have no doubt Cordner will be there, I just think he is or ever should be a certainty if others are going better. I take your point re Crighton though.

All I'm saying is, I don't think our chances are significantly down on what they already are, if we ran with all those debutants.

Can someone please explain, when you look at likely lineups, why NSW would in any way be favourites for this game?

incumbency from a losing side probably shouldn't hold to much value* but i think at the very least the players trying to get in over the incumbents need to have had some good form for a pro longed period themself. i personally had crighton as a big chance in the preseason but he has been quiet despite playing behind a pretty strong performing middle @ souths.

Sims is probably the only edge backrower in good enough form to warrant but i can't see any of us wanting sims as our starting left edge backrower.




* but i still the performances should, cordner has performed well at this level before.

Ice wrote:All I'm saying is, I don't think our chances are significantly down on what they already are, if we ran with all those debutants.

Can someone please explain, when you look at likely lineups, why NSW would in any way be favourites for this game?

we will be favorites and we need to stop hiding from that


i think our middles (RCG, klem, vaughn, Jtrbo & JDB) are all playing strong footy and i've got a heap of confidence of these guys getting on top of the QLD forward. Smith may be part of the spine that is always better then us but don't underestimate the effect he had in the middle of the park, QLD have lost that, they will now also struggle for a goal kicker.

i probably rate the QLD halves higher but i think the gap is significantly smaller and if we do get on top in the middle, i think we can get the results we need

QLD probably also have a better backline based on having GI & slater. but i think our players are good enough to finish off the chances the pack will hopefully give them

Doesn't matter how good your halves are if you aren't wining the battle in the forwards. Especially in origin.

Hunt, Munster, Morgan have all shown they cant win without their forwards being on top (Cronk Smith Thurston always could) so now our strength may finally outweigh QLDs strength. Its why my side has 4 middle players on the bench to rotate with the 4 middles on the field, keep them fresh and going forward and we will win

last night on fox they were talking about the halves -
they reckon the halfback will be Moses and the six is either Keary or Green.
If that happens, freddy can fuck right off. Moses doesnt deserve to be the waterboy let alone the halfback, Keary - i have never been sold on. Green, yeah he is solid but an Origin player? I duno. I honestly wouldnt hate a halves pairing of Brooks and Cleary.

They also said that gus said there will be a few players there that will seem left field (I assume someone like finucane, who ironically has been shithouse this year)

leaguegod wrote:

we will be favorites and we need to stop hiding from that


i think our middles (RCG, klem, vaughn, Jtrbo & JDB) are all playing strong footy and i've got a heap of confidence of these guys getting on top of the QLD forward. Smith may be part of the spine that is always better then us but don't underestimate the effect he had in the middle of the park, QLD have lost that, they will now also struggle for a goal kicker.

i probably rate the QLD halves higher but i think the gap is significantly smaller and if we do get on top in the middle, i think we can get the results we need

QLD probably also have a better backline based on having GI & slater. but i think our players are good enough to finish off the chances the pack will hopefully give them

The only Blue supporter with any sense.

Dead right and thus a massive series for the OLD forward pack.
The likes of Scott, McGuire (if fit), Napa, Wallace, Hess, Cooper etc. are all fairly horribly out of their best form and are really going to have to step up quite a few notches.