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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by leaguegod on Mon May 08, 2017 9:53 am

    Dip wrote:

    Can the NRL test them not through ASADA? If so testing positive for recreational drugs would come under the confidential 3 strikes policy and not be publicised maybe???? Bromwich and Proctor are in the crapper due to being publicised in a court case rather than the NRL drug policy.

    Probably fair to say they'll be told there's going to be a mountain of testing next rep weekend.


    yeah they do either, through NRL is their strike policy (1 is a warning, 2 is 12 weeks etc) and you'd think both jbrom and proctor atleast copped that

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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by Dip on Mon May 08, 2017 10:06 am

    leaguegod wrote:


    yeah they do either, through NRL is their strike policy (1 is a warning, 2 is 12 weeks etc) and you'd think both jbrom and proctor atleast copped that

    Yeah I'm sure those guys copped that, I meant in relation to not doing it for fear of missing a dozen rep players from round 10 because of the potential results.
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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by No Worries on Tue May 09, 2017 8:45 am

    Being busted in possession is different to a NRL positive test. Also the whole we can see you doing it but have no evidence cause you snorted it all is different again.

    It's come out SKD has had his warning he's up for 12 weeks. But a big call committing to a follicle test. Guess he'd only just bought it and hadn't had a chance to rack up.

    And another sharkie is following the snow white line. Does it throw shade over the whole peptides saga ? If this is your attitude to illegal drugs, is that far a leap to assume it's the same for performance enhancing drugs ?

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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by Dip on Tue May 09, 2017 10:13 am

    No Worries wrote:Being busted in possession is different to a NRL positive test. Also the whole we can see you doing it but have no evidence cause you snorted it all is different again.

    It's come out SKD has had his warning he's up for 12 weeks. But a big call committing to a follicle test. Guess he'd only just bought it and hadn't had a chance to rack up.

    And another sharkie is following the snow white line. Does it throw shade over the whole peptides saga ? If this is your attitude to illegal drugs, is that far a leap to assume it's the same for performance enhancing drugs ?

    For performance enhancers, you don't need to have a positive drug test, possession is enough, as well as other evidence, such as admissions etc. Lance Armstrong, and 90% of cyclists in the last 30 years are pretty good examples of that. You might remember Jobe Dajka a few years ago a few months before an Olympics. He was one of the favourites, but a cleaner at AIS found vials under his mattress and he was suspended on that evidence. Not sure if it's the same for recreational drugs since that's a NRL thing rather than ASADA (for SKD anyway, since it wasn't game day). It will actually be interesting if ASADA uses the video evidence to pursue a performance enhancing game day drug charge for Bromwich and Proctor, ala Wendell Sailor. I'm guessing the answer is no since the video evidence shows it happened after the game (which is a bit different than to Sailor's positive test because there was no evidence that he took it after the match, and they took the stance that it was taken as a stimulant before the match).

    You wonder what SKD has to gain by insisting he didn't take coke. Even if he didn't the club could presumably still sack him for being in possession, and you'd think the way the NRL integrity unit makes decisions, that they would find a way to issue a 12 week suspension for possession anyway. Maybe he's trying to get the same 2 weeks as Bromwich and Proctor by saying the NRL is being hypocritical, but I reckon they'd say that if he is saying it's not for personal use, then he's a dealer and that is worse (I'm not saying that, that's what I think the NRL would say).

    As for whether I think is it a big leap to say if you're prepared to take recreational drugs then you're prepared to take PED's, yes I think that's too big leap to make. But it's Cronulla and I hate that I think they got away almost scott free from the Peptides stuff, so I am happy to be hypocritical and let them cop everything they get.
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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by No Worries on Thu May 11, 2017 8:35 am

    NRL's stance on illicit drugs has just got tough.

    Just so as not to drag the game through another drug saga I would like to advise players that we know you take your drugs on bye rounds (Timmay was right) so we are gonna test every last fuckin one of you so we can prove last weekend was an isolated incident. Now so you understand, if your team has the bye we are going to test you, so don't do drugs that weekend. Drugs are bad m'kay.
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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by No Worries on Thu May 25, 2017 9:58 am

    Ben Barba signs 3 year deal with St Helens. Saints to confirm whether 12 match ban applies. RFL says yes but it seems they are going to say it's not an ASADA ban and only a NRL ban under it's own 2 strike policy which doesn't apply to Super League eg. if a player has 1 strike it doesn't transfer with them.


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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by leaguegod on Thu May 25, 2017 10:04 am

    sound slike a pretty fair argument from st helens actually


    but from barba's prespective, you'd think if is in england till the end of 2019 and still hasn't served his 12 game ban, we may have seen the last of him in the NRL
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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by No Worries on Thu May 25, 2017 10:24 am

    There's always been an agreement through the RFL that a suspension in one league applies in all. I can see St Helen's point and if they wanted to push it, I could see them win legally. But at what cost to brand based on potential bad publicity.

    Personally I would like to see the suspension served because I think it would set a dangerous precedent if it was wiped by ESL.
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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by Pieman on Thu May 25, 2017 10:26 am

    I still dont understand why the bloke didnt just cop the 12 weeks. Obviously financial issues, but fuck, he would be back playing in a week or 2 if he just manned up.
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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by No Worries on Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:36 am

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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by No Worries on Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:18 am

    NRL have cleared the accreditation of Dean Robinson to join his brother at the Roosters. The same Dean Robinson involved at Essendon but never shone a light on, the same Dean Robinson involved with the Roosters when players returned high levels of testosterone. Everyone knows you need to find another gear come finals time. Load up on the Rorters.
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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by dasherhalo on Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:09 pm

    This is how I imagine that meeting went. "I'm just looking at everyone's faces here, and ... yeah....



    either jump to 1 min36secs, or go directly to https://youtu.be/BzNAyZw7DF0?t=1m36s
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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by ryno_ on Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:41 pm

    Word on the street is a particular player got busted selling game merch to punters on the side for a big markup and not delivering any goods.

    In other, non-related news;

    https://www.nrl.com/titans-release-chris-grevsmuhl/tabid/10874/newsid/110937/default.aspx
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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by SI on Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:16 pm

    I admire the professional fashion of that juxtaposition!

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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by Dip on Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:42 pm

    With mad Monday coming up anyone want to take a guess who and what will hit this thread in the next couple of days?

    With the SSM debate going on, I'll go with someone being caught making a homophobic slur in hearing distance of the media.
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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by dasherhalo on Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:52 pm

    T and A at the knights. Drugs at the Tigers.

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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by Dip on Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:01 pm

    So it seems the Warriors can score occassionally:

    http://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/nrl-hit-by-allegations-of-a-sordid-culture-of-group-sex/news-story/c08f26545d6603d1ae971ee328d2aa7f

    Sounds like no suggestion it isn't consentual, so no real issue as far as I'm concerned, though I'm sure the people who had a problem with the Broncos toilet tryst will think it's a hangable offence.
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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by ryno_ on Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:16 pm

    Dip wrote:So it seems the Warriors can score occassionally:

    http://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/nrl-hit-by-allegations-of-a-sordid-culture-of-group-sex/news-story/c08f26545d6603d1ae971ee328d2aa7f

    Sounds like no suggestion it isn't consentual, so no real issue as far as I'm concerned, though I'm sure the people who had a problem with the Broncos toilet tryst will think it's a hangable offence.

    I have a massive issue with it. How does a man named "Bodene" pull a good sort like that?

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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by Mighty Fishes on Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:06 pm

    Dip wrote:So it seems the Warriors can score occassionally:

    http://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/nrl-hit-by-allegations-of-a-sordid-culture-of-group-sex/news-story/c08f26545d6603d1ae971ee328d2aa7f

    Sounds like no suggestion it isn't consentual, so no real issue as far as I'm concerned, though I'm sure the people who had a problem with the Broncos toilet tryst will think it's a hangable offence.

    Sounds like a horny teenager wrote it "from there they had sex at his apartment in Sydney and they had sex at her place"

    Who gives a fuck? To me it sounds like it was consensual so no problem as far as I can see. I'm not sure where all this "pack mentality" shit comes from "nrl players think they can get away with anything" What is he getting away with? He had sex with a fine sort. Leave him be

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    Re: The bad behaviour thread

    Post by Dip on Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:37 pm

    Mighty Fishes wrote:

    Sounds like a horny teenager wrote it "from there they had sex at his apartment in Sydney and they had sex at her place"

    Who gives a fuck? To me it sounds like it was consensual so no problem as far as I can see. I'm not sure where all this "pack mentality" shit comes from "nrl players think they can get away with anything" What is he getting away with? He had sex with a fine sort. Leave him be

    Yep, and some people like different things, so who are others to condemn it. Some people like to have sex with people of the same sex. Some people like to do it with the lights on. Some people like to do it on the kitchen table. If some chicks want to have sex with multiple professional athletes at the same time and it's consentual, then even though I might not want to do that (though if I was single and Stephanie Rice, Michelle Jenneke and Michelle Wie want to try it sometime, I might be able to be convinced...), then fair enough as far as I'm concerned.

    In fact, the story says this chick would set up her friends with groups of players, which seems to indicate they were more than willing. What the media are saying, is that if a woman wants a particular sexual desire, then she shouldn't get it and should instead abstain from that desire. That's a bit 1950's for me. I know about 10 years ago I went on a bucks night that started with a day at the Gabba. At about 2am and 14 hours drinking, one of my mates got picked up by an older lady. When the last 3 of us stumbled home an hour later and accidently stumbled into the twin share hotel room while they were on the workbench, I mean the bed, after apologising and going to another hotel room one of us got a text "she says lose the others and come back". My two single mates got used big time by that cougar that night (and loved it). I'm not sure what the point of that story is. I think it's that it isn't only men in groups who want to act differently to how society says we should act. In any event I thought you guys might want to hear it.

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