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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by SI on Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:20 pm

    @Dip wrote:
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    Ellery Hanley went allright in his first stint but let's not talk about his last game for us Sad

    How about that grubber that lead to the Steve Jackson try by the other Pom, Andy Currier a year later.

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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by Revraiser on Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:42 pm

    I have been waiting for pangai for a couple years. Why did the raiders let him go ?

    Good write up HS
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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by Pieman on Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:12 pm

    @Revraiser wrote:I have been waiting for pangai for a couple years. Why did the raiders let him go ?

    Good write up HS

    Because of the bronco's endless TPA

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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by Dip on Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:55 pm

    @Pieman wrote:

    Because of the bronco's endless TPA
    Raiders released him a year early. Not sure what any TPA had to do with that.
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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by Pieman on Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:14 pm

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    Raiders released him a year early. Not sure what any TPA had to do with that.

    They released him early because they needed cash for Paulo and Tapine for the rest of the year. They prob used some TPA to sign them as well.
    The bronco's were allowed to add a young gun to their already stacked side because of their access to unlimited TPA.
    If the bronco's werent expecting to get him till next year, how can they afford to pay him now? They didnt release anyone. The team is already loaded.
    TPA's my friend. TPA's everywhere.
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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by surmo13 on Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:30 pm

    @Pieman wrote:

    They released him early because they needed cash for Paulo and Tapine for the rest of the year. They prob used some TPA to sign them as well.
    The bronco's were allowed to add a young gun to their already stacked side because of their access to unlimited TPA.
    If the bronco's werent expecting to get him till next year, how can they afford to pay him now? They didnt release anyone. The team is already loaded.
    TPA's my friend. TPA's everywhere.

    No we didn't release anyone, That's why Timu is at the Reds & grienke is at Souths

    Not that it'll matter to you, because no doubt you're about to tell me timu & grienke were on base contracts and pangai is on at least 500k

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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by Dip on Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:49 pm

    Wouldn't the more reasonable question be to ask where did the Raiders get the money for unexpected signings of Paulo and Tapine?

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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by Guest on Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:53 pm

    @Dip wrote:Wouldn't the more reasonable question be to ask where did the Raiders get the money for unexpected signings of Paulo and Tapine?

    The money they had set aside for Tedesco would be the most logical answer.
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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by Honeysett on Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:37 pm

    @Dip wrote:Wouldn't the more reasonable question be to ask where did the Raiders get the money for unexpected signings of Paulo and Tapine?

    James Roberts.

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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by Dip on Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:06 pm

    @Honeysett wrote:

    James Roberts.
    Roberts didn't come from the Raiders????
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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by Pieman on Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:08 pm

    @Dip wrote:Wouldn't the more reasonable question be to ask where did the Raiders get the money for unexpected signings of Paulo and Tapine?
    The more reasonable question? Not in the slightest. It's still a valid question tho, with an even more understandable answer.
    Considering the raiders don't have an established team of Australian and QLD rep superstars, its reasonable to think that they have a little bit of cash sitting around. As I mentioned in the previous post, they may have used TPA to get them. They also lose Sisa Waqa at the end of june, which frees up a few hundred thousand, considering he was their marquee signing last year - so they may have used that too.

    Also, I assume the money saved from signing that hopeless bloke James Roberts would be floating around hey. The new signings prob saved even more money on the cap hey!!!!! My bad!

    Also, its nice to know that I can still stir you precious Ponys up with a simple post that has zero source behind it.

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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by surmo13 on Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:17 pm

    @Pieman wrote:
    Also, its nice to know that I can still stir you precious Ponys up with a simple post that has zero source behind it.

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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by Dip on Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:17 pm

    If you're sarcastically suggesting A non representative centre with disciplinary problems at multiple clubs takes up less salary cap space than a 20 origin current premier centre in the game, then yes, I agree.
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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by Pieman on Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:32 pm

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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by Archer on Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:05 am

    Raiders released TPJ because he had already signed for Broncos for the following year and we were able to get Tapine in early.

    If we didn't I'm sure we would have been painted as the bad guys and some story would have been 'leaked' to the media about how TPJ couldn't be away from home because his cousins dog missed him or some such. Given that, why not just cave once we got Tapine and avoid all that.

    Why couldn't we retain TPJ for next year? That's where the TPA's come into it, I've heard he was very highly rated at the club and was definitely in their long term plans but we just couldn't compete with the Broncos.  No source though so dismiss it if that's your thing.

    Where did we get the money for Paulo and Tapine? Well for one we started chasing Tapine after TPA er sorry TPJ was signed elsewhere (from memory) and secondly Ricky had been chasing guys for quiet a while (you may remember having the media constantly tell you about all his 'Failed signings'), and have let go a ton of guys over the last few years who were getting paid far more than they probably should have been (you only need to look at how many are starting at NRL clubs now and remember they were in our 17 regularly).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canberra_Raiders

    Seriously, look at the 2015 and 2016 signings there at the bottom. I know people will look at names like Josh McCrone and think he must be minimum wage but the dude was our starting half alongside Campo! Anyway, I could go on but I'm sure people will wind me up and use the 'always worth peanuts when signed but worth millions when released' argument against me, so I'll bow out now.


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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by surmo13 on Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:39 am

    @Archer wrote:

    Why couldn't we retain TPJ for next year? That's where the TPA's come into it, I've heard he was very highly rated at the club and was definitely in their long term plans but we just couldn't compete with the Broncos.  No source though so dismiss it if that's your thing.


    odd, the article making the rounds on all the news outlets is saying that he was feeling like wasn't going to get a shot at the Raiders, Joffa got in his ear about moving up to Brissy, so Pangai rang up Bennett himself about playing for us.

    can't say i blame him either, might have been part of the Raiders future plans, but Ricky's been buying every available backrower that looks in Canberra's direction, how long would 'long term plans' have him languishing in reserve grade?
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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by Archer on Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:27 am

    @surmo13 wrote:

    odd, the article making the rounds on all the news outlets is saying that he was feeling like wasn't going to get a shot at the Raiders, Joffa got in his ear about moving up to Brissy, so Pangai rang up Bennett himself about playing for us.

    can't say i blame him either, might have been part of the Raiders future plans, but Ricky's been buying every available backrower that looks in Canberra's direction, how long would 'long term plans' have him languishing in reserve grade?
    Honestly, I'm not sure If you're just trying to wind me up or if you actually believed that article.

    1) He was 19 last year and playing in Mounties rather than U20's a clear sign he was being groomed for 1st grade. I'm not sure who calls that 'languishing in reserve grade.
    2) The article you are referring to says
    Nrl.com wrote:Pangai took matters into his own hands earlier this year and made a phone call to Brisbane Broncos coach Wayne Bennett.
    https://www.nrl.com/bennett-happy-to-answer-pangais-sos/tabid/10874/newsid/97843/default.aspx
    And yet there are articles from October last year saying the broncos were chasing him.
    Brisbane Times wrote:
    Brisbane are eyeing off promising Canberra forward Tevita Pangai. Having already lost Anthony Milford to the Broncos, the Raiders won't want to lose the Junior Kangaroo, who was named in the under 20s team of the year.
    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rugby-league/sin-bin/sin-bin-nrl-in-talks-to-take-over-dally-ms-from-news-corp-20151003-gk0ga2.html
    I mean the date of his signing announcement should tell any reasonable person that's garbage ffs.
    3) A bloke who feels like he isn't getting a run in FG, chooses to go from the Raiders (Who over this year and last have played Barnett, Priest, Kennedy, Bateman and his eventual replacement Tapine) to the Broncos because he though't he'd get a better shot there? Really? Gillet, Thaiday, Blair, Parker, Glenn, McGuire, whatever other rep gun I've forgotten and the guy thinks, yep that's an easier way into FG.

    Anyway I could go on but I think I've convinced myself you are just winding me up. I fell for it Sad Well played!

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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by Dip on Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:48 am

    The whole thing is a wind up basically as a reply to someone questioning how we can buy someone who'd be basically on close to minimum contract. Some people get enjoyment from trolling. Others get enjoyment from correcting idiotic posts.
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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by No Worries on Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:07 am

    Let's get back on topic. How good are the Tigers. If only these kids had a coach. If they win 1 m ore game than they lose from here on in they reach the magical 28.

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    Re: Round 14 Match Thread

    Post by Guest on Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:13 am

    Your Name wrote:Let's get back on topic. How good are the Tigers. If only these kids had a coach. If they win 1 m ore game than they lose from here on in they reach the magical 28.
    Yeah Josh Addo-Carr was great last night.

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