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    How many points will nrl deduct from parra ?

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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by filthridden on Thu May 05, 2016 3:16 pm

    Your Name wrote:Radradra to do French rara

    Good old Aussie Sam!

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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by Dip on Thu May 05, 2016 3:37 pm

    If that happens, presumably in a couple of years Aussie Semi could line up for Le Bleu just like Lesley Vulcano did for England.

    Actually I assume probably not since Semi played 7's for Fiji, but it wouldn't surprise if that was the case.

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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by Oz Sport Mad on Thu May 05, 2016 4:44 pm

    dasherhalo wrote:You'd have to think that getting cap compliant in under 10 days is going to be tough without losing a big name on big dollars?

    Even then it would be difficult as the other clubs certainly won't be paying top dollar and I'd doubt would even be matching their current contracts.
    That combined with having to replace that salary with another from outside the current top 25 would make the task difficult if not impossible to achieve.

    I also don't like the pressure this has placed on Watmough to retire.
    Seems like a genuine shitbag but potentially the bloke had aspirations of making a comeback and if this is the case, he shouldn't be forced to make a career decision based on Parra's off field shamozzle.
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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by dasherhalo on Thu May 05, 2016 5:49 pm

    I admit I hadn't really taken Watmough's thoughts into consideration. Probably because I don't give a sh*t about Watmough. If it wasn't like kicking a dog, I'd be giggling like a schoolgirl about the prospect of Watmong refusing the medical retirement, and certain Eels supporters curling up into fetal balls as their carefully laid plans fell apart.

    Sorry - that's not directed at any Eels fans here. I've been over at RU reading, and there's a pocket of twats that seem to think the NRL hasn't made a case, and it's totally unfair.

    However - I did come across this gem:
    "the recordings were made by the CEO's Executive Assistant at the meetings concerned to assist her with compiling the minutes. She then transferred the audio to files on her PC which were found by the NRL Integrity Unit during their investigation"

    Which, if true, is just gold.

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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by Dip on Thu May 05, 2016 6:19 pm

    I guess you shouldn't automatically hire the secretary with the biggest funbags.
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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by code delta on Thu May 05, 2016 8:41 pm

    Dip wrote:I guess you shouldn't automatically hire the secretary with the biggest funbags.
    or maybe she knew the wrong thing was happening and after one to many sexist comments figured out a smart way to show she had funbrains?? Cheers

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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by Dip on Thu May 05, 2016 9:42 pm

    Tough crowd. Apologies if I've offended anyone with my blatant (1980's)stereotyping.

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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by Dip on Thu May 05, 2016 9:44 pm

    And of course you're right. In fact all available evidence suggests she was probably the smartest and most ethical person in that meeting.
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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by code delta on Thu May 05, 2016 9:59 pm

    Dip wrote:Tough crowd. Apologies if I've offended anyone with my blatant (1980's)stereotyping.
    Based on some of the stuff here I don't think you'd be offending anyone. But I think what she did was smart, whether by intention or not. Funbags are a bonus, not a prerequisite to smart. Very Happy
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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by dasherhalo on Fri May 06, 2016 6:50 am

    Dip wrote:Tough crowd. Apologies if I've offended anyone with my blatant (1980's)stereotyping.
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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by Mighty Fishes on Fri May 06, 2016 11:08 am

    So i'm not sure but I doubt Ryan Morgan and Watmough are enough to cover the $570k over. Paulo probably not heading to the Raiders early according to the Raiders. I don't see them trying to get rid out any big name players I think it'll be a few more mid tiered players. Like Tanginoa, Cornish, Hasson, O'Brien, Nelson and King

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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by Ice on Fri May 06, 2016 11:19 am

    Dip wrote:

    That you can't re run the finals series is why you can't award it to the losing finalist. If Melbourne wasn't there you don't know who would have won because they were cheating the whole way through. In all likelihood it would have been the Broncos. I mean we beat teams 1 & 3 before losing to the cheating Storm. Parramatta didn't even have to leave their home state despite playing two interstate teams that finished higher than them on the ladder.

    I dont think Parra should be awarded the Premiership anyway to be honest.

    But make no mistake, no team has had a tougher run to the Grand Final than Parra that year and no team ever will again. We played and beat team 1 away a week after they had beat us by 30, you played and beat them at home a week after they had been totally demoralized and run over by the Hayne Train. In week 1 you guys had to go ALL the way to the Gold Coast in week 1 to beat team 3, the Gold Coast!!! Seriously, its easier to get to the Goldie for Brisbane than it is for Parra to get into Moore Park. We then played and Beat team 2 away and you had 30 put on you by Melbourne, who beat us by 7 in the GF.

    Sooo, you played two games in your home state, the first away and the second at home both against teams that finished higher than you and then got walloped by the Storm away.

    We played those same two teams, both AWAY, and then still had to go through team 2 AWAY and the just fell to the Storm. Please tell me again how your run was tougher than ours???.

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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by Ice on Fri May 06, 2016 11:25 am

    B/L wrote:Corey Norman to the Panthers is doing the rounds.

    Personally I cant see it, but they will basically be no chance of meeting his asking price next year so may as well let him go now.

    we will be every chance of meeting his asking price if we don't sign all the players that are off contract and Watmoughs $750k is off the books next year. We must re-sign him. I'll be filthy if we lose him to Panthers or anyone else.
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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by ryno_ on Fri May 06, 2016 12:29 pm

    The only reason that Norman > Panfers is doing the rounds is because Norman is housemates with Seggy and Issac (not Luke....).

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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by Dip on Fri May 06, 2016 1:45 pm

    Ice wrote:

    we will be every chance of meeting his asking price if we don't sign all the players that are off contract and Watmoughs $750k is off the books next year.  We must re-sign him.  I'll be filthy if we lose him to Panthers or anyone else.

    I agree you have to sign him. Norman and Foran is what that team will be built around the next few years. Losing Watmough will do nothing though if he's who goes to get the team back to the Salary Cap in the first place. From memory though, Norman went to Parra because he got an offer he couldn't refuse, which at the time was being reported as about $400K+/Yr. Surely if he keeps his form up all year he's probably an $800K+ player, but that's not really too much extra to find given the cap will have increased in that time. Probably the Eels biggest problem wont be getting rid of some overpaid players, it'll be keeping the younger players, particularly the good forwards who would have signed reasonably cheap contracts a couple of years ago, but are now rightfully asking for a fair bit more as they're much better players. Take Junior Paulo. He probably was on less than $200K on his contract, but probably signed for double his salary at Canberra. Fair chance the same sort of thing happens with the likes of Mau, Edwards, Moroara etc.

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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by Dip on Fri May 06, 2016 1:57 pm

    Ice wrote:

    I dont think Parra should be awarded the Premiership anyway to be honest.

    But make no mistake, no team has had a tougher run to the Grand Final than Parra that year and no team ever will again.  We played and beat team 1 away a week after they had beat us by 30, you played and beat them at home a week after they had been totally demoralized and run over by the Hayne Train. In week 1 you guys had to go ALL the way to the Gold Coast in week 1 to beat team 3, the Gold Coast!!!  Seriously, its easier to get to the Goldie for Brisbane than it is for Parra to get into Moore Park. We then played and Beat team 2 away and you had 30 put on you by Melbourne, who beat us by 7 in the GF.

    Sooo, you played two games in your home state, the first away and the second at home both against teams that finished higher than you and then got walloped by the Storm away.

    We played those same two teams, both AWAY, and then still had to go through team 2 AWAY and the just fell to the  Storm. Please tell me again how your run was tougher than ours???.

    I didn't say ours was tougher than yours, only that we would have beaten Parra in the final. In fact I reckon both teams got draws much softer than the numbers suggest just be luck as much as anything else. Gold Coast played above themselves that year and was probably always going out in straight sets. As a Bronco playing on the road, the Gold Coast is a great option. Before the format was changed, we somehow got to play the number 1 team on our home ground, and the first time we got what we deserved we played the cheaters at their home ground 2000km away.

    Parra also got a blessed draw. Got to play the perennial chokers on a Sunday arvo, then played the previously mentioned Titans at home, before playing the Dogs at a ground they play some home games at when like the Titans the Dogs were over-achievers that year on the back of an aging halfback, who in the prelim final came back early from a broken jaw and wasn't the same player in the final. They then got to play the GF on that some occassional home ground.

    Neither team had to play the strongest legal team of their era because they were knocked out from 4th or 5th by the cheaters, something that had never happened under the system.

    Good luck to them though. Neither team made the draw and they could only play the team in front of them on the day, and Parra did that great and put up a great effort in the GF. I agree with you that the correct outcome was "no premiership awarded" appearing on the record books.

    Sometimes when I lie awake in bed I like to think that since we were defending premiers heading into the 2007 finals, and then got knocked out by the cheaters in 2007, 2008 & 2009, that morally, we probably would have won all of those premierships. Instead I just have to find a way to fall asleep with our premiership on average every 5 years ratio.
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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by Honeysett on Fri May 06, 2016 2:03 pm

    Dip wrote:

    I didn't say ours was tougher than yours, only that we would have beaten Parra in the final. In fact I reckon both teams got draws much softer than the numbers suggest just be luck as much as anything else. Gold Coast played above themselves that year and was probably always going out in straight sets. As a Bronco playing on the road, the Gold Coast is a great option. Before the format was changed, we somehow got to play the number 1 team on our home ground, and the first time we got what we deserved we played the cheaters at their home ground 2000km away.

    Parra also got a blessed draw. Got to play the perennial chokers on a Sunday arvo, then played the previously mentioned Titans at home, before playing the Dogs at a ground they play some home games at when like the Titans the Dogs were over-achievers that year on the back of an aging halfback, who in the prelim final came back early from a broken jaw and wasn't the same player in the final. They then got to play the GF on that some occassional home ground.

    Neither team had to play the strongest legal team of their era because they were knocked out from 4th or 5th by the cheaters, something that had never happened under the system.

    Good luck to them though. Neither team made the draw and they could only play the team in front of them on the day, and Parra did that great and put up a great effort in the GF. I agree with you that the correct outcome was "no premiership awarded" appearing on the record books.

    Sometimes when I lie awake in bed I like to think that since we were defending premiers heading into the 2007 finals, and then got knocked out by the cheaters in 2007, 2008 & 2009, that morally, we probably would have won all of those premierships. Instead I just have to find a way to fall asleep with our premiership on average every 5 years ratio.

    Can I have the lotto numbers for next week please? Nostradamus.

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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by Dip on Fri May 06, 2016 2:09 pm

    Honeysett wrote:

    Can I have the lotto numbers for next week please? Nostradamus.

    Yeah, granted I could be wrong. I typically am about 3/8 of the time in my tips, anyway. I'm mainly basing that on what team having a 20 year history of winning big matches, and the other having a 20 year history of losing big matches.

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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by Ice on Fri May 06, 2016 2:39 pm

    Dip wrote:

    I didn't say ours was tougher than yours, only that we would have beaten Parra in the final. In fact I reckon both teams got draws much softer than the numbers suggest just be luck as much as anything else. Gold Coast played above themselves that year and was probably always going out in straight sets. As a Bronco playing on the road, the Gold Coast is a great option. Before the format was changed, we somehow got to play the number 1 team on our home ground, and the first time we got what we deserved we played the cheaters at their home ground 2000km away.

    Parra also got a blessed draw. Got to play the perennial chokers on a Sunday arvo, then played the previously mentioned Titans at home, before playing the Dogs at a ground they play some home games at when like the Titans the Dogs were over-achievers that year on the back of an aging halfback, who in the prelim final came back early from a broken jaw and wasn't the same player in the final. They then got to play the GF on that some occassional home ground.

    Neither team had to play the strongest legal team of their era because they were knocked out from 4th or 5th by the cheaters, something that had never happened under the system.

    Good luck to them though. Neither team made the draw and they could only play the team in front of them on the day, and Parra did that great and put up a great effort in the GF. I agree with you that the correct outcome was "no premiership awarded" appearing on the record books.

    Sometimes when I lie awake in bed I like to think that since we were defending premiers heading into the 2007 finals, and then got knocked out by the cheaters in 2007, 2008 & 2009, that morally, we probably would have won all of those premierships. Instead I just have to find a way to fall asleep with our premiership on average every 5 years ratio.

    Yeah, I don't think about the ones we haven't won either. I go to sleep fine each night knowing that you are only as good as your last Three-peat.

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    Re: How many points will parra lose

    Post by Ice on Fri May 06, 2016 2:43 pm

    Dip wrote:

    Yeah, granted I could be wrong. I typically am about 3/8 of the time in my tips, anyway. I'm mainly basing that on what team having a 20 year history of winning big matches, and the other having a 20 year history of losing big matches.

    Given the one team town status of the Broncos and the amount of rep players they have had in each of their sides over the years, Id argue their record is incredible poor. I honestly don't know how you guys have managed to lose as many premierships as you have with the players you've had at your disposal and the corporate support you have access to. If Toovey was in charge he'd be asking for an investigation for sure.

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