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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by Honeysett on Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:53 pm

    Pieman wrote:You would think that at this stage in his career, Watmough is best suited to coming off the bench

    For a country side or worse ESL
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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by Pieman on Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:57 am

    Honeysett wrote:

    For a country side or worse ESL
    If his knees have somehow recovered, he could actually be great off the bench.
    I doubt it though.
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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by Chicks Dig It on Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:44 pm

    Personally id start with Moeroa at Lock, another big body defending in the middle.
    Scott and Mau on the edges.
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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by No Worries on Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:14 am

    So Watmough has retired due to chronic knee damage.

    Talk of Hindy coming back

    Lol
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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by Krump on Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:25 am

    Your Name wrote:So Watmough has retired due to chronic knee damage.

    Talk of Hindy coming back

    Lol
    If he's serious he needs to lay off whatever he's been smoking. I thought he must have meant park footy until I read it.
    The Watmough retirement reeks of sneaky cap management ala Mark Gasnier.
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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by Pieman on Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:30 am

    Krump wrote:
    If he's serious he needs to lay off whatever he's been smoking. I thought he must have meant park footy until I read it.
    The Watmough retirement reeks of sneaky cap management ala Mark Gasnier.

    Would love to see hindy back, but surely it wont happen. Would be the oldest player in the NRL if he did.
    Yeah the watmough thing def does sound like that. A week ago he was reported to be the best he's felt in years after a huge preseason too.

    Something very off about it.
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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by Honeysett on Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:35 pm

    Krump wrote:
    If he's serious he needs to lay off whatever he's been smoking. I thought he must have meant park footy until I read it.
    The Watmough retirement reeks of sneaky cap management ala Mark Gasnier.

    I'm glad other people that the dragons were rourting that. Heavy back ended contract, retires so they don't need to pay him, then give him the money later on.
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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by Krump on Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:25 pm

    Hindy has confirmed his comeback is BS.
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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by Chicks Dig It on Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:36 pm

    Id say they've probably offered him a cushy assistant forward coaching role in order to get his wages off the cap. He'll still earn the money, just wont take the field.

    Free up some cash to make a play at getting Hayne back next season?
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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by SI on Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:11 pm

    Chicks Dig It wrote:Id say they've probably offered him a cushy assistant forward coaching role in order to get his wages off the cap. He'll still earn the money, just wont take the field.

    Free up some cash to make a play at getting Hayne back next season?
    You'd think so Chixx, would it be going too far in saying you would kind of not give a fuck what happened this year if Hayne guaranteed he would be playing for the Eels in 2017?
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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by Chicks Dig It on Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:36 pm

    If you guaranteed me Hayne in 2017, id seriously consider taking another spoon this year! Lol
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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by No Worries on Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:32 am

    First claims of giving hospitality to TPA companies, now paying for goods and services that were never provided to pay players after they leave the club and overpaying for work performed to syphon money to players.

    Somethings never change. Who was the eels player who's wife was the beautician getting paid for back sack and cracks for the whole team each month that never happened ?

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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by Ice on Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:47 am

    OMG, a footy club providing people with free tickets to corporate boxes!!!!!! There needs to be an investigation!!!! Deadset, every single team does this, there is absolutely no doubt about it at all, I've been the beneficiary of it in both league and Union and not at the Eels.

    As to paying for services never rendered, yep, that is an issue that needs to be looked at.

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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by Ice on Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:48 am

    On another topic, namely footy, how bout those Mannah led Eels giving the Nth Qld Representative pack and halves a touch up? Nice effort boys.

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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by leaguegod on Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:34 am

    what are we thinking on the odds of points deduction now ice ? starting to look more likely, which would be shame, anyone involved in any way should get the sack, football side looking up and the board finds a way to potentially ruin that

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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by Ice on Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:24 am

    I think points deductions unlikely unless Breaches for this year are occurring. I think the most likely scenario is monetary sanctions. The fact the club has employed the services of Ian Shubert to oversee the cleaning of salary cap issues will rightfully work in our favour. The worst thing that could happen to the Club now is wholesale changes to the board as that will simply create more division and uncertainty and wont in any way help address governance issues.

    The Club is financially very strong due to the outstanding efforts of the Leagues Club CEO to get that house in order and it must be remembered it is the same board, so it is unlikely the NRL will demand wholesale changes or look to take control of the club like they have with the basket cases that are the Titan, Tigers and Newcastle.

    The biggest issue for us at the moment is really the health of Foran, Mau and Peats, cause we have shown if those guys are fit then we own the premiers and all before them.
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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by Krump on Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:01 am

    Were the latest rorts happening under the current or previous board?

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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by Ice on Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:09 pm

    When the evidence is in a charges are laid about these alleged rorts we will be able to answer that.

    But giving corporate box tickets is not a rort, if that is all they've got then they will need to go through every NRL Club.

    As to allegations of ongoing payments to Hayne, not sure how that is at all relevant. I pretty sure they didn't say years ago, "Hey Guys, if Hayne ever decides to go play Gridiron, lets keep paying him a paltry amount in the hope that will stop him doing it" As to the players wife getting paid for BC&S, seriously, big deal, again, you'd struggle to find a club that didn't have at least one person somewhere in some way related a player past or present, getting paid for something they did or didn't do. If the NRL seriously think this is going to fix Cap issues across the game, issues of their own making due to having a daft cap in the first place they are on crack.
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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by Krump on Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:57 pm

    Ice wrote:When the evidence is in a charges are laid about these alleged rorts we will be able to answer that.

    But giving corporate box tickets is not a rort, if that is all they've got then they will need to go through every NRL Club.

    As to allegations of ongoing payments to Hayne, not sure how that is at all relevant.  I pretty sure they didn't say years ago, "Hey Guys, if Hayne ever decides to go play Gridiron, lets keep paying him a paltry amount in the hope that will stop him doing it"  As to the players wife getting paid for BC&S, seriously, big deal, again, you'd struggle to find a club that didn't have at least one person somewhere in some way related a player past or present, getting paid for something they did or didn't do.  If the NRL seriously think this is going to fix Cap issues across the game, issues of their own making due to having a daft cap in the first place they are on crack.  
    Saying the rule is stupid or that everyone else is doing it isn't a credible defence mate, sorry. On a more positive note they are looking great on field this year.

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    Re: Cap cheating, pill popping Eels in CRISIS 2016 thread

    Post by leaguegod on Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:07 pm

    what about 80K for suits thats never arrived ? media calling that a hidden player payment


    if thats true, that is blatantly cheating the cap


    you can argue some examples thrown around in the media are minor but the fact there are so many examples and proof of the board discussing ways to beat the cap is not a good sign no matter how you look at it


    i personally hope no points are lost, huge finds, any board member implacted told to buzz off and move on but i feel the board will dig their heels and the nrl just make take 4 pts off them

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